Hermann Identification

[micki]

Please could someone tell me if my 2 hermanns are the same subspecies or different.
Here are 2 pix of their underside. many thanx.

 

[HermanniChris]

The first tortoise is a definite Testudo hermanni boettgeri. The 2nd tortoise could possibly be a Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis as I cannot see if it has inguinal scutes or not. Can you post a close up of the area I have circled in your photo?

 

[micki]

thanx for that Chris. they are still hibernating so i will get another pic when i wake them up. i thought there were only 2 species of hermanni...
Hermanni Boettgeri and Hermanni Hermanni... or is that another name for hercegovinensis??

 

[egyptiandan]

Here you go Micki http://forums.shelledwarriors.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3264

Danny

 

[micki]

Here you go Micki http://forums.shelledwarriors.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3264

Danny

thanx for that Danny., if they are different subspecies do i need to keep them separate?

 

[HermanniChris]

There are currently 3 different subspecies, Testudo hermanni hermanni, Testudo hermanni boettgeri and Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis. If they are in fact different subspecies I would advise that you do keep them separate to avoid cross-breeding.

 

[JustAnja]

There are currently 3 different subspecies, Testudo hermanni hermanni, Testudo hermanni boettgeri and Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis. If they are in fact different subspecies I would advise that you do keep them separate to avoid cross-breeding.

Unless of course they are the same sex! hehehe (of which I cant tell from the pics anyways!) lol