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What's in that leaf, grocery and garden, published nutrient list.

Discussion in 'Tortoise Diet and Food' started by Kapidolo Farms, Nov 1, 2017.

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  1. William Lee Kohler

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    Surprised have not seen Chard on here. How about Green Chard?
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    Swiss (green) Chard, Beta vulgaris

    USDA https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/...Chard,+swiss,+raw&ds=&qt=&qp=&qa=&qn=&q=&ing=

    Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chard

    The Tortoise Table https://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk/plant-database/viewplants/?plant=176&c=8#.XBlXU2hKhaQ

    Feedipedia https://www.feedipedia.org/node/534

    So more or less a 'variety' of beets which is interesting. High calcium, but I found it's very hard to find references to how much of that might already be bound (not available) with oxalate).

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    Have you done cilantro already? I looked through the thread and didn't see it, but I'm also catching up on last night's Saturday Night Live at the same time.
    Thanks for this thread, it's great!
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    Which have more calcium, radish or turnip leaves?
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    Are you able to find anything on mango leaves? How about fenugreek greens/methi?
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    Hi, I see this thread has been dug up and I had a question if anyone knew the answer.

    I see delonix regia listed here from a post in may 2018, but the feedipedia page only gives nutrient info on the seed pods. The seed pods on this tree are incredibly tough and I can't imagine a tort eating them. Does anyone happen to know if the leaves or flowers are edible for tortoises? And nutrient info on them? They are everywhere around here and I'd love to take advantage of that if I can. Thanks!
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    Kapidolo Farms Well-Known Member 5 Year Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

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    I've neglected this thread for a bit, sorry about that. I'll seek to carve time out to answer info requests, and I made it a 'watched' thread now too.

    What brings me back is that I found a rater rare composition of a commonly fed item, at least for folks in more tropical areas. I pulled it from a PhD thesis and only copied the two tables that get to the nutrient content of the item, Banana leaf, petiole, and stalk.

    If you want more of the text let me know. I'll be watching this thread better.

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    Bok Choy is one of the brassicas, like cabbage. It is quite nutritious with
    vitamins A and C, and minerals such as calcium. Any cabbage is just fine used as
    a part of a varied diet. Those with dark green leaves (such as bok choy) or the
    especially the red cabbages provide excellent nutrition. So there is no reason
    to avoid them.

    The brassicas contain glucosinolates, in particular the goitrogens, so if it is
    overused and iodine is not replaced in some way, there could be health issues
    over many years, such as the growth of a goiter. Providing cuttlebone, or other
    source of trace iodine (for instance, seaweed), solves the problem and allows
    the tortoise to eat these excellent foods.

    The "good foods / bad foods" paradigm for feeding tortoises is a highly flawed
    concept that eliminates far too many excellent sources of high quality nutrition
    and ignores how tortoises eat in the wild. Use all types of plants, always in
    moderation, and provide calcium in a separate form so that the animals can
    self-regulate. Cuttlebone is a very good choice for this, as it also provides
    trace iodine.

    Mary at the turtle Puddle
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    Yeah, that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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