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jaizei

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Nevada governor practices medicine now?
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This article is both misleading and wrong. The drugs can still be used as treatment in in-patient settings.


 

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It's been that way here for over a week now...I have to take a 2 lane 55 mph hiway to town, and usually it's relatively heavy traffic...yesterday, no body, I was supposed to go the the hospital to get my monthly labs, or I wouldn't have ventured out...well...lol, maybe that's not exactly true...but as long as I was out anyway...I went to the Safeway...empty streets, empty shelves (at 6am)...and the employees...gone...a skeleton crew...and a 3/4 inch thick plastic shield to protect the clerk...X's on the floor telling me where to stand...they don't even bag your groceries...oh, and when I bought cat food last friday it was .55 a can...yesterday the same can was .69...isn't that price gouging in some way? For some reason, it affected me...people were white stony faced and tense...no smiles and no heard talking. My right hand and arm were injured in an accident in 2003, it doesn't work right...so here I am holding everyone up, fumbling and dropping stuff, the clerk staring at me, but no help...So I went home and skipped the hospital...safely home, whew...I 'think' I'm set for abt 3 weeks now.
Some how we just all need to stay together, support each other and we will survive
All our doctors are now doing phone interviews only. We supposedly haven't had any infections yet in our county. I'm glad though. I don't want exposed to their germiness anyway. I went to kroger and no dang tp AGAIN. They did have Kroger brand paper towels. I didn't buy them. The post office is making mail carriers work even if they're sick. Other businesses are using the essential business loopholes to stay open and force employees to go ahead and work. Like JoAnn's fabric craft store. So much for the social distancing being followed. And here I sit like an old hen in a stew.hehehe...?
 

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Here is something that makes no sense to me. Perhaps someone can help me understand.

I know where the concept of the 6 feet between people comes from. I had a vet in college that taught us as a general rule there needed to be at least 6 feet between animal cages to greatly reduce the chances of spreading most contagious diseases.

What is 6 feet between people going to do when this C19 is supposedly able to survive on airborne micro droplets for 3 hours, and on surfaces for days? It makes no sense.

I know of a lot of people who've been sick this year, all recovered, tested negative for flu, and the symptoms line up perfectly with C19. If this thing spreads this easily, I can't imagine that anyone in this country hasn't already been exposed to it, myself included. Like any sickness, exposure is not a guarantee that you'll become sick and show symptoms. Some people's immune systems simply fight it off.

Something is fishy here. Very fishy. Red herring fishy. Now we have a Universal Basic Income plan being proposed and supported by both sides? Free gift money for everyone adding up to trillions? We're being played. We're so screwed...

Tom you are absolutely correct. I think the 6 feet apart under this circumstance is to guarantee we aren't congregating in groups to discuss how we're being duped. There is power in numbers and people should be waking up pretty soon. The UK has stopped the quarantine idea already, days ago. This whole thing is being driven by "Big Pharma" to prepare us us for the nearly 300 new vaccines in the pipeline. Big Pharma owns all the TV and internet networks through purchasing all the majority of commercial time and they decide what will make the headlines and what will even be allowed on TV. Chaos, propaganda and fear are the best ways to get people to cooperate. They will only allow the networks to report that which will make us fearful and broken; and then set it up, just like they are, to make us completely dependent on the government to bail us out.

Right now they have the whole world waiting on a vaccine for COVID-19. Did you know that there is no liability for doctors using or the manufacturing of vaccines? Vaccines are liability free!! They have never been able to create a vaccine for any of the 100's of coronavirus versions out there. I fear this entire escapade has been designed to usher in mandatory vaccination, not only for our children, but for every adult too. It's a big money maker for Big Pharma with no worry of liability. I fear they will hold all Social Security, insurance, welfare, unemployment, employment, Medicare, you name it, unless you agree to receive all the (nearly 70) vaccines they now have and all the future vaccines now in the pipeline.

Bill Gates will implement his ID 2020 this year, which includes chipping us all with our medical and other information, including what vaccines you have been given, if you own a gun, if you've been arrested... This might even sound good to some people. Many of us possess genetic polymorphisms like MTHFR, that cannot detox well, especially from the adjuvants added to vaccines and we will be, and have been, harmed by vaccines. Any of us with autoimmune disease should not be given any vaccines. In America we should be able to have a choice as to what medical interventions we want to risk or not. They have tried diligently to make Vaccination Mandatory to attend school. They have managed to eliminate Philosophical and Religious Exemptions from Calif, New York, Maine, Tennessee and West Virginia. They have made it nearly impossible in those states to even get a Medical Exemption. We have been losing more and more of these rights recently and in fact right now we have practically lost all our rights. Anybody who tries reporting what I am saying has already been banned from Facebook. Censorship is rampant! It is becoming more difficult to actually even be able to find the truth.

Even if you love vaccines and think they are amazing, you should be concerned that those who don't, can't have a choice anymore. People have been led to believe that these diseases live in us all the time and vaccines remove the disease. This just isn't true. You have nothing to fear from an unvaccinated person. Herd immunity only exists for the unvaccinated population through acquiring and fighting off the disease, after which they will have lifetime immunity. Herd immunity can never be developed in the vaccinated population, because any of the little bit of immunity acquired from a vaccine doesn't last. This is why boosters are required. Big Brother is poised to know everything about everybody to an even greater extent than it does already. I know I sound like a complete conspiracy theorist, but honestly I see it coming. I'm old, I have lived a long time and I know History, something young people have conveniently not been taught. The Socialist Agenda always starts just like this. I truly don't know how we can fight back either because Big Pharma has nearly every legislator in their pocket. They are rewarded monetarily for voting a particular way. When we all have to surrender our guns, the end of our society as we know it will have arrived.
 

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If she didn't have me to tease her and pick on her...and publicly embarrass her...well heck...she'd only have people who are nice to her...and what fun is that???
Hope you are feeling better today...
Speaking of being nice,. . .

I'm a loner, and I appreciate my aloneness. And it always amazes me when someone is nice to me because I feel like I'm the ugly troll who lives under the bridge.

Yesterday I got an email from an acquaintance in SoCal offering to send me animal supplies if I need any, and an hour or so ago someone I used to know in the turtle club here called me asking if she could go to the produce store for me and letting me know she's willing to be at my beck and call.

It's heartwarming to know I'm on people's minds!
 

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Not fishy at all.

It's just a layer of pro-social behavior modification that keeps us all present to the Awareness that we are in a risky situation.

If you set your brain to keep a 6-foot distance, you won't instinctively hug or shake hands or kiss a friend. You can't reach! Your brain remains mindful of the fact that surfaces are an issue; you make a continuous mental note to wash your hands properly at the next available sink.

18% of known-infected people require hospitalization. I don't want to be hospitalized. I don't want to be tubed and put on a ventilator. I don't want to wake up and have them hand me the bill. I don't want to wake up and find that My Person has died. Alone. And that my pets have been confiscated by animal control and re-homed.

I don't want to be the cause of that happening to other people in my community, or across the country.

The way we manage influenza viruses in the U.S. is crap. That is not a good excuse for mismanaging this situation.

The smart choice is to do whatever we can think of to protect ourselves. The pro-social choice is to do whatever we can think of to protect others.

You have much more to fear from the regular flu. It kills people 10 times the rate of COVID-19 EACH AND EVERY YEAR. You don't see them shutting down the world every flu season do you. They just aren't telling you this. Look it up ZenHerper, I'm not pulling your leg. Social distancing is the beginning of creating a lifestyle where people will have to fear each other. The high rate of hospitalization that you are quoting comes from the fact that only the very, very sick are being tested. They are dying WITH Coronavirus not from Coronavirus. They are dying from pneumonia just like from the flu. Cases of the flu are actually super, super low when actually tested. They die from pneumonia WITH the flu. Our country only has 1 hospital bed for every 1000 citizens. Japan and South Korea have 12 beds for every 1000.
 

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Am I correct in thinking that vitamin C is just a good thing during virus season?
Specifically Orange juice?
It's cheaper than bottled water.


Big Citrus has gotten to you. tsk tsk

I stopped drinking most orange juice after I learned how it's processed/made, etc. Compared to the way a lot of juices are actually cocktails with an apple juice base, i had such respect for orange juice until then.
 

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A point my sister just brought up to me for a reason America wasn’t hit as hard as other countries because Americans have been raised with personal space standards. We don’t kiss on cheeks when meeting, we don’t stand on top of each other in line, and keep our hands our self.

Also another note, our house just got appraised at $500k 2 weeks ago, and now we just got a note from Mortgage watch that our house is now $800k.

Yes, I've noticed everything costs more. $150 for a case of Scott Shop Towels online that only cost about $24 a few weeks ago.
 

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I'm pretty sure we've bereaved the media and government already.


Look, you have to vet your sources. I can't say what's making you so paranoid, but you have to compare that rhetoric to proper scientific and statistical sources. Precious few people in this thread provide citations for what they reference/claim. A lot of what is being thrown about is baseless. The internet is an environment ripe with misinformation. Feed your brain ideas from healthful sources, or develop, like, mental MBD.


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Human DNA is programmed for each individual to gather what is Best for them. But we are part of a highly social species. The second question is, "What is the Best I can give to others?"

It is easy to identify anti-social people. They do and say anti-social things.

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52% of the total deaths in NJ had NO underlying medical conditions.


Follow the money ZenHerper!!
 

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Louisiana runs headlong into the pandemic: nfection rates skyrocketed since Mardi Gras. Nearly half of hospitalized patients there are on ventilators.



Why do you think these sources are to be trusted? What makes this information correct?
 

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So how is the government going to justify city closures and then reopen all closed business that have major viral & bacterial infection risks on a daily? Like high volume restaurants and bars? Movie theaters? Spas? Spas is a big one... much is not checked as it is and that is very very disturbing..... Many of the high volume gatherings in our society involve alcohol, and a lot of it: LAS VEGAS (HA), concerts, sporting events, festivals, clubs, bars.... Intoxicated humans forget all sorts of things... NO way to remind drunk (or worse) people to keep distance, use tissues, wash hands, not throw up in public, not kiss 6 people, not share joints.... What are going to be the changes ?

Exactly!!
 
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