I think I need more input to understand how to ID these North African Graeca. I’ve gotten input from keepers with a lot of experience however the ID amongst 4 keepers was split down the middle. 2 say all Nabeulensis. 2 say all Cyrenaica.
There is so little published info on these two localities and tbh, there is mixed info there too.
They appear to be young to me so hard to say I can depend on size but all are around 5 inches. The male is slightly larger around 5.5 inches.
Anyone that can explain the morphological differences?
Each time I think I know, I start to feel like there are more classic traits but a lot of variability with both localities and potentially integration like with Terrapene.
What do you think these are?
There is so little published info on these two localities and tbh, there is mixed info there too.
They appear to be young to me so hard to say I can depend on size but all are around 5 inches. The male is slightly larger around 5.5 inches.
Anyone that can explain the morphological differences?
Each time I think I know, I start to feel like there are more classic traits but a lot of variability with both localities and potentially integration like with Terrapene.
What do you think these are?
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