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StudentoftheReptile said:Well, I was very ready to kiss this forum good-bye (and in many ways, still am).
Why?
Will
StudentoftheReptile said:Well, I was very ready to kiss this forum good-bye (and in many ways, still am).
Why?
Will
kbaker said:My city includes tortoises as an exotic animal. When I asked for clarification, it is basically to include what they want and when they want to. So if I get no complaints against me, I am fine. If people complain about me or my tortoises, I go before a judge and my tortoise will be taken away because keeping exotic animals in my city is illegal.
Will said:StudentoftheReptile said:Well, I was very ready to kiss this forum good-bye (and in many ways, still am).
Why?
Will
terryo said:I agree. You are a wonderful contributor here on this forum, and nothing should ever be taken personally, but even if you do, that is no reason to leave. There are lots of things I do that are not conventional, and as I always say...it's just how I do things, and my opinion. What a boring world it would be if we all did everything the same, and agreed on everything. I notice that it's a very difficult thing for some people to respect other's opinions at times, and we've lost some really great people that used to contribute so much to this forum, because of that. Stay..........you are needed here.
taytay3391 said:Wait, so if I humanely kill a person then chop them up and use all parts effectively....it's ok? Because its better than getting eaten *** end alive by a lion?
And I think I must be confused because I read slaughter of animals and Jews of holocaust... In the same sentence... We're you seriously comparing the two? I come from a Jewish father... I don't even know how to respond!
taytay3391 said:Wait, so if I humanely kill a person then chop them up and use all parts effectively....it's ok? Because its better than getting eaten *** end alive by a lion?
And I think I must be confused because I read slaughter of animals and Jews of holocaust... In the same sentence... We're you seriously comparing the two? I come from a Jewish father... I don't even know how to respond!
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Did you read the original thread? This is where that part came in.
But in reality, when the term “animal rights†is used, it is most often referring to a notion that animals have equal (if not greater) rights than human beings. Many people believe that keeping an animal in captivity for any reason is equal to holding a human prison; that the slaughtering of food animals such as cattle and poultry is the same as what Jews suffered through during the Holocaust…and so on.
Now, people have the “right†(pun intended) to believe whatever they want, but if one has even an intermediate understanding of the mental capacity of most animal species compared to that of humans, they will know that comparing the two is comparing apples to oranges. I’m not going to dive into a long discussion regarding intelligence or emotional capacity, because I will concur there are some exceptional examples in the animal kingdom, both on the species and on the individual level.
Before anyone gets offended or starts ranting, read the original thread. This thread is going good so far and is very interesting. If everyone reads the original thread they will know what the bits and pieces being taken from it, is really being referred to.[/b]
StudentoftheReptile said:kbaker said:My city includes tortoises as an exotic animal. When I asked for clarification, it is basically to include what they want and when they want to. So if I get no complaints against me, I am fine. If people complain about me or my tortoises, I go before a judge and my tortoise will be taken away because keeping exotic animals in my city is illegal.
Case in point.
Im sorry to hear you have this to contend with. hopefully, no complaints?
Will said:StudentoftheReptile said:Well, I was very ready to kiss this forum good-bye (and in many ways, still am).
Why?
Will
If you weren't around for it a couple weeks ago, its not important enough to rehash the details. In a nutshell, I let the, uh..."deliberate ignorance" of a few get to me a little too personally. But as I said in my first post of this thread, I've decided not to take it too seriously. More than a few folks have reminded me that there are more important things to focus on than get too riled up about some ostriches that are content to keep their heads in the sand on some issues.
EricIvins said:This is the point where the Plane is on fire and spiraling to the ground........Please go ahead and finish it off.......I'm sure we would all love to see another thread closed because of off topic, out of context interjection.......
taytay3391 said:Wait, so if I humanely kill a person then chop them up and use all parts effectively....it's ok? Because its better than getting eaten *** end alive by a lion?
And I think I must be confused because I read slaughter of animals and Jews of holocaust... In the same sentence... We're you seriously comparing the two? I come from a Jewish father... I don't even know how to respond!
If I go someplace...any place...and I see a sick, deformed, animal who is in pain and tortured every day of their life, and I see the suffering in their eyes, pleading for help, I do something about it, anyway I can. I just don't walk away and try to forget that face. So, my "idiotic approach" to saving an animal might not be the same as yours, but it doesn't make it the wrong way to do things. And please don't tell me about the "law". If the law allows these things to happen, then maybe it should be broken. Let's try to remember that everyone who doesn't agree with you, isn't ignorant.
If the ban is passed I wonder how many of us will still own, sell, breed, and rescue reptiles.