1. Welcome! Are you interested in tortoises? If so, we invite you to join our community! Our community is the #1 place for tortoise keepers to talk online. Once you join you'll be able to post messages, upload pictures of your tortoise and enclosure, and discuss any tortoise topic with other tortoise keepers. Get started today!

Tortoise bit off the head of cage mate.

Discussion in 'Advanced Tortoise Topics' started by Kyleb43, May 13, 2019.

Help Support Tortoise Forums by donating:

  1. Yvonne G

    Yvonne G Old Timer TFO Admin 10 Year Member! Platinum Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2008
    Messages:
    81,207
    Likes Received:
    53,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Clovis, CA
    I'm thinking this must be the case too. They are opportunistic and they do occasionally eat meat in the wild.
    puffinboots and ZEROPILOT like this.
  2. vladimir

    vladimir Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2017
    Messages:
    862
    Likes Received:
    1,088
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location (City and/or State):
    Pennsylvania
    Incredibly sad however it happened :(
  3. G-stars

    G-stars Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,679
    Likes Received:
    1,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    So Cal
    I agree with the above that is probably what happened, the tortoise died and then was nibbled on. However, the bullying probably stressed the tortoises out and had a contributing factor to its death in the first place. So bullying still killed both of those tortoises.
  4. stephpw

    stephpw New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2018
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location (City and/or State):
    Coral Springs
    Thanks for the advice, folks.
  5. cheri7

    cheri7 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location (City and/or State):
    New River, AZ
    I’m so sorry this happened to that poor baby.... yes do keep the other two apart...
  6. TammyJ

    TammyJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,438
    Likes Received:
    1,809
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Jamaica
    This is quite horrible and I am sorry it happened. Keep them separated and secure the enclosures from predators like dogs, rats, hawks, raccoons etc.
  7. Millerlite

    Millerlite Well-Known Member 10 Year Member!

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2008
    Messages:
    2,642
    Likes Received:
    386
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location (City and/or State):
    Southern Calif.
    Is it possible the turtle died and the other turtle started biting at it? Sorry for your loss.
    TammyJ likes this.
  8. Professor Brenda

    Professor Brenda Active Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2019
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    176
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Pflugerville, Texas
    This is so sad. I am so sorry for your experience as much as for your loss. How awful.

    I do have to agree with everyone else that I hope at least this is a learning experience for all that tortoises should not be housed together. They are solitary animals.
  9. lizznet15

    lizznet15 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2019
    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    46
    Trophy Points:
    13
    Location (City and/or State):
    el paso, Tx
    Oh my gosh I am so sorry this happened. This is a good place to find good answers.
  10. Randdawgg

    Randdawgg New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2019
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location (City and/or State):
    West Kelowna BC
    Very sad.I was thinking of getting a friend for my tort but I think I will play it safe.I have heard that males can be pretty aggressive towards each other.
    ZEROPILOT likes this.
  11. dmmj

    dmmj The member formerly known as captain awesome Moderator 10 Year Member!

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    19,748
    Likes Received:
    7,000
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    CA
    each other, females, shoes, rocks, walls, pretty much anything
    Lunaqua and TechnoCheese like this.
  12. ZEROPILOT

    ZEROPILOT Well-Known Member 5 Year Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,220
    Likes Received:
    34,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    South Eastern Florida (U.S.A.)/Rock Hill S.C.
    Any tortoise can be aggressive to any tortoise.
    Especially in an enclosure that is small.
    Groups only work in very large areas. And even then, they don't always work.
    TechnoCheese likes this.
  13. puffinboots

    puffinboots Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2015
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I think Mark1 is right . The tortoise died & the others decided on a spot of cannibalism. I have never seen one of my tortoises bite one another. Even as they eat together , I watch to see the babies eating with the adults , a baby’s head almost touching the adults mouths, but they have never come to harm.
  14. puffinboots

    puffinboots Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2015
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I wonder if keeping tortoises from the same family can make them less aggressive.
    The smell of an alien might spur them to fight.
  15. el_mechacontext

    el_mechacontext New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2018
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location (City and/or State):
    Chicago, IL
    Thank you for those of you who posted info about bullying signs. I am considering getting another Russian and will definitely be using a separate enclosure if I do.
  16. TammyJ

    TammyJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,438
    Likes Received:
    1,809
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Jamaica
    I have to admit this thread (the photos) gave me nightmares. But it's probably a good lesson as to what may happen. I just never saw such an extreme example, if it was really a fight and decapitation, which I also doubt. I think it died first and its head was the easiest thing to get at.
  17. wellington

    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    37,318
    Likes Received:
    13,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Chicago, Illinois, USA
    That's what I was wondering too. A dog or likely a cat being no other chew Mark's like a dog would do more so then a cat
    TammyJ likes this.
  18. wellington

    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    37,318
    Likes Received:
    13,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Tortoises dont want or need friends. Best to keep single or in a group of one Male to several females and even then they may all need to be housed alone.
    Ketta, Gijoux and TechnoCheese like this.
  19. wellington

    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2011
    Messages:
    37,318
    Likes Received:
    13,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location (City and/or State):
    Chicago, Illinois, USA
    So very sorry this happened.
  20. KSeaman

    KSeaman New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2018
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location (City and/or State):
    Washington
    Very sad indeed.
    I think we can all use this as a learning opportunity.
    Just like in dog training, my go to saying is....they never do until they do.

    So sorry for your lost.

    In raising Betta fish, you can keep babies from the same hatch usually safely until they reach a certain age then they almost always (98%) of the time they will start fighting and need to be separated.
    lizznet15, Ketta and Lunaqua like this.
Similar Threads: Tortoise head
Forum Title Date
Advanced Tortoise Topics Female tortoises having a flexible plastron at adulthood Today at 5:56 PM
Advanced Tortoise Topics Relocating tortoise in house. Yesterday at 3:41 PM
Advanced Tortoise Topics Leopard tortoise tried to breed with Sulcata tortoise Sep 4, 2019
Advanced Tortoise Topics Mycoplasma transmission from rodent to tortoise Aug 30, 2019
Advanced Tortoise Topics Tortoise shell Aug 19, 2019

Share This Page