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my opinion on off leash , there is a time and place for it whether your dog is friendly or not ....... i've raised some extreme dog aggressive dogs , i've raised timids dogs , solid dogs and "mean" dogs , i've never raised a dog that was a problem for me or anyone else ....... when some ones loose dog runs up on mine on a trail and tells me their dog is friendly , often didn't help me , cause mine wasn't ........ i've had dogs would try and kill a strange dog 100% , i could walk them by another dog , both on leashes , on a 6 foot wide trail without a problem ...... i've had loose dogs run up on my dog on leash without the owner being anywhere in site , then when the owner arrived they were afraid to help break up the fight ........ common sense is needed in off leash decisions , my dogs off leash are never out of my sight , ever , and i'm looking around for anything and everything .....,,

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Beautiful dogs!
What people don't understand about the leash law is the fact the owner is suppose to have 100% control at all times. Even the very best trained dog will possibly have at least one thing that will make them not obey an owners voice command. Hence the reason for the leash.
 

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Well common sense has to be used. I'm a no dogs in the house person & I don't do designer animals that cant breath normally etc. I like bird dogs myself German short hairs & English pointers. They stay outside & have cool areas to relax even in 100F/high humidity days. I pull them back working on hot days. I've had people jump all over me about my dogs being outside out of pure ignorance while they're shitzu looks like friar tuck due to its hair falling out from the stress etc.

I think we have lost our minds with animals these days & are into the realm of a mental disorder. In the age of perpetual adolescence we forget these are dogs & not actual children. You're not a dog mom/dad and that's not a furbaby it's your pet. Theres no doubt we have a special bond with our animals, but leave sparky at home when you go in the bank/home depot/grocery store/etc. It's a respect thing with me. I'll walk my dogs in public, but I respect areas where I have to be in the vicinity of others that might not like dogs. Theres just more appropriate places to take your animal. Treat it like a dog & you might be able to take it off those anxiety meds.
 

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Well common sense has to be used. I'm a no dogs in the house person & I don't do designer animals that cant breath normally etc. I like bird dogs myself German short hairs & English pointers. They stay outside & have cool areas to relax even in 100F/high humidity days. I pull them back working on hot days. I've had people jump all over me about my dogs being outside out of pure ignorance while they're shitzu looks like friar tuck due to its hair falling out from the stress etc.

I think we have lost our minds with animals these days & are into the realm of a mental disorder. In the age of perpetual adolescence we forget these are dogs & not actual children. You're not a dog mom/dad and that's not a furbaby it's your pet. Theres no doubt we have a special bond with our animals, but leave sparky at home when you go in the bank/home depot/grocery store/etc. It's a respect thing with me. I'll walk my dogs in public, but I respect areas where I have to be in the vicinity of others that might not like dogs. Theres just more appropriate places to take your animal. Treat it like a dog & you might be able to take it off those anxiety meds.
In some states, its against the law to keep any dog outside during extreme cold. I hope they make it the same for extreme heat.
What or who you think have lost their minds over their fur baby/pet, those same people feel the same about your opinion.
The only wrong are the ones putting the dogs life in danger, neglectful or abusive.
 

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Lol it's always a fan favorite when I mention something about pet parents. I'm a nightcrawler dad. I feed and take care of them their entire life they're my babies! To each their own I guess.

That's ridiculous as well what's extreme cold? A husky would be rolling & doing back flips in cold that would freeze a short hair dog. Where a husky would stroke out in heat that another will run in....what about banning "dangerous" dogs. Someone's pitbull can be way less dangerous than another person's poodle. We've become a society of extremes even though we've been taught usually thats a bad thing. Extreme furbaby people are just as bad as the outside in heat dog people...its just the perception that's it better since they're abusing the animal in a more plush way.

What's neglect keeping a bird dog that's bred to range 500yrds in a town home while you work all day or someone like me who keeps them outside on an acreage with proper shelter from the elements? I misspoke earlier I do bring them in at night to avoid theft or during tornado weather.
 

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Lol it's always a fan favorite when I mention something about pet parents. I'm a nightcrawler dad. I feed and take care of them their entire life they're my babies! To each their own I guess.

That's ridiculous as well what's extreme cold? A husky would be rolling & doing back flips in cold that would freeze a short hair dog. Where a husky would stroke out in heat that another will run in....what about banning "dangerous" dogs. Someone's pitbull can be way less dangerous than another person's poodle. We've become a society of extremes even though we've been taught usually thats a bad thing. Extreme furbaby people are just as bad as the outside in heat dog people...its just the perception that's it better since they're abusing the animal in a more plush way.

What's neglect keeping a bird dog that's bred to range 500yrds in a town home while you work all day or someone like me who keeps them outside on an acreage with proper shelter from the elements? I misspoke earlier I do bring them in at night to avoid theft or during tornado weather.
You have to remember. A lot of people are either cruel, ignorant or plain stupid. Many dogs that should not be out in extreme cold and are not built for extreme cold are left outside. Like the Pitbull, like your dogs.
Just because you have acreage doesn't mean you take better care then the townhome person. I know many people with acreage, that should never have a dog. I know people with homes and average yard, that should adopt every homeless dog. It's what you do for them not what you have.
The laws are meant for everyone but were made because of the ignorant idiots.
 

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In some states, its against the law to keep any dog outside during extreme cold. I hope they make it the same for extreme heat.
What or who you think have lost their minds over their fur baby/pet, those same people feel the same about your opinion.
The only wrong are the ones putting the dogs life in danger, neglectful or abusive.
My furry beasts love the cold. Heck in the winter my Newfie goes outside cause I have the heat up to high! 70 degrees only when I am home awake otherwise it is 60 degrees.
 

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My furry beasts love the cold. Heck in the winter my Newfie goes outside cause I have the heat up to high! 70 degrees only when I am home awake otherwise it is 60 degrees.
It's not the cold. It's the minus temps with minus wind chill that could freeze and dogs feet, face, etc. Extreme cold is very different then cold.
 

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You have to remember. A lot of people are either cruel, ignorant or plain stupid. Many dogs that should not be out in extreme cold and are not built for extreme cold are left outside. Like the Pitbull, like your dogs.
Just because you have acreage doesn't mean you take better care then the townhome person. I know many people with acreage, that should never have a dog. I know people with homes and average yard, that should adopt every homeless dog. It's what you do for them not what you have.
The laws are meant for everyone but were made because of the ignorant idiots.

The perception would be that I'm a bad owner since I keep my dogs outside. The townhome scenario is the equivalent of keeping a sulcata in a 10x10 enclosure. I could give the best food & care to a sulcata...but if it's in a 10x10 area then would do I really be responsible getting one? Mom/dad seems to tote more importance than dog owner & these laws seem to cater to this new mindset.

Honestly I'm trying to understand this whole pet parent thing. I breed German short hairs on occassion, but I get a lot of emails lately that read "I'm a good dog mom or I'm a mom to 3 dog's & 1 cat". I end up rejecting them due to them wanting to own this dog in a tiny yard or backyard breed which they get offended. They cant understand this is a working dog that will destroy everything you own & walk all over you if you try to treat it like a human...but since they're a good pet parent how could I not consider them so they lose it.

I don't mean to poke fun I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind these new pet laws & how someone can get to this type of mindset....for example happy fathers day to the tort dads. I agree people are downright cruel with pets & I don't know why they even get them. Fish & reptiles are almost throw away commodities
 

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dogs been with people since we were animals ourselves.... are you one of those people thinks people are not animals ?
my late wife raised weimaraners , i've had a bunch , beautiful dogs , crazier than woodrats , biters , i'm amazed they are not used in protection sport , they're absolutely smart enough ,maybe not enough fight ...... definitely not a dog for everyone , but certainly house trainable
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i was raised by a pit enthusiast with a yard full of working pitbulls .......... my wife had this designer dog , i've had pitbulls , bullmastiffs , bordeauxs , neos , rotts , spaniels , poodles , weimaraners , a shi tzu , lasa apso , and french bulldogs ...... i actually don't understand where folks with your point of view get it from , not to be offensive , just trying to understand ???? i assure you your german shorthairs are as house trainable as any dog, you just got to know how ......... my kennel dogs can live in the house , but then i'm probably a more experienced dog "dad" than you ...... if your dogs are destroying your house , they're bored .......


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The perception would be that I'm a bad owner since I keep my dogs outside. The townhome scenario is the equivalent of keeping a sulcata in a 10x10 enclosure. I could give the best food & care to a sulcata...but if it's in a 10x10 area then would do I really be responsible getting one? Mom/dad seems to tote more importance than dog owner & these laws seem to cater to this new mindset.

Honestly I'm trying to understand this whole pet parent thing. I breed German short hairs on occassion, but I get a lot of emails lately that read "I'm a good dog mom or I'm a mom to 3 dog's & 1 cat". I end up rejecting them due to them wanting to own this dog in a tiny yard or backyard breed which they get offended. They cant understand this is a working dog that will destroy everything you own & walk all over you if you try to treat it like a human...but since they're a good pet parent how could I not consider them so they lose it.

I don't mean to poke fun I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind these new pet laws & how someone can get to this type of mindset....for example happy fathers day to the tort dads. I agree people are downright cruel with pets & I don't know why they even get them. Fish & reptiles are almost throw away commodities
I think a dog in a townhouse is much different then a sulcata in a 10x10
There are many ways to mentally and physically entertain a dog that lives in a townhouse. Dog walkers, daycares and family once home.
Might be more the mind set of city dwellers versus country/suburban dwellers. City dwellers in my side of the city invest a lot of time into their dogs. Daycare, walkers and taking them out themselves.
Dogs/pets are family members. I don't understand your point as much as you don't understand mine. My animals are part of my family. I will do whatever it takes to keep them happy, healthy and thriving and have done so.
Years ago I raised and showed Chinese Shar-Pei. You could get a million dollar loan easier then one of my pups. They were my responsibility and I needed to find them the best home possible. I totally understand you being picky about who gets your pups. However, someone that what's to love it like a family member, would be top on my list, along with proper education on the breeds characteristics.
It's really simple. People will always defend what they do. They will always think their way is better. The real problem is when they are right fighters just to be right even if they aren't.
As long as the dog is happy, healthy and thriving, not abused or neglected, it can't be wrong.
 

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The perception would be that I'm a bad owner since I keep my dogs outside. The townhome scenario is the equivalent of keeping a sulcata in a 10x10 enclosure. I could give the best food & care to a sulcata...but if it's in a 10x10 area then would do I really be responsible getting one? Mom/dad seems to tote more importance than dog owner & these laws seem to cater to this new mindset.

Honestly I'm trying to understand this whole pet parent thing. I breed German short hairs on occassion, but I get a lot of emails lately that read "I'm a good dog mom or I'm a mom to 3 dog's & 1 cat". I end up rejecting them due to them wanting to own this dog in a tiny yard or backyard breed which they get offended. They cant understand this is a working dog that will destroy everything you own & walk all over you if you try to treat it like a human...but since they're a good pet parent how could I not consider them so they lose it.

I don't mean to poke fun I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind these new pet laws & how someone can get to this type of mindset....for example happy fathers day to the tort dads. I agree people are downright cruel with pets & I don't know why they even get them. Fish & reptiles are almost throw away commodities
Once again, because someone considers themselves a “pet parent” doesn’t mean they treat that pet like a human. I’m a tortoise mom and I treat my tortoise like a tortoise, as I wrote about in the other thread. You’re way too fixated on this topic and are reading too much into it, in my opinion. I see my happy Father’s Day post in the other thread is eating you up inside too. It’s not a bad or evil thing to consider yourself a pet parent. It brings happiness and light into some peoples lives and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m proud to own my happy…well…sometimes grouchy 😂 but healthy tortoise. I’m proud to be referred to as a tort mom. It’s a badge of honour that I get to care for my tortoise. My point here is, we aren’t all bad people. Some of us pet parents do things by the books, properly and provide the best care possible.
 
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That is disgusting and never, ever, should happen to any dog and specially a cop dog!

I think a dog in a townhouse is much different then a sulcata in a 10x10
There are many ways to mentally and physically entertain a dog that lives in a townhouse. Dog walkers, daycares and family once home.
Might be more the mind set of city dwellers versus country/suburban dwellers. City dwellers in my side of the city invest a lot of time into their dogs. Daycare, walkers and taking them out themselves.
Dogs/pets are family members. I don't understand your point as much as you don't understand mine. My animals are part of my family. I will do whatever it takes to keep them happy, healthy and thriving and have done so.
Years ago I raised and showed Chinese Shar-Pei. You could get a million dollar loan easier then one of my pups. They were my responsibility and I needed to find them the best home possible. I totally understand you being picky about who gets your pups. However, someone that what's to love it like a family member, would be top on my list, along with proper education on the breeds characteristics.
It's really simple. People will always defend what they do. They will always think their way is better. The real problem is when they are right fighters just to be right even if they aren't.
As long as the dog is happy, healthy and thriving, not abused or neglected, it can't be wrong.
But in all of this, I've heard no one talk about barking dogs--uncontrolled barking dogs put outside who bark & bark & bark and even bark uncontrollably when inside. How can ANYONE think it's ok?? It's one of the reasons we moved.

I luv dogs. I luv my "nephews," who are little yippers & are insulted if people don't fawn all over them at Home Depot. After 26 yrs in the same house, I finally don't hear non-stop dog barking when I go out on my driveway in the new house. What a relief!!
 

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It's not the cold. It's the minus temps with minus wind chill that could freeze and dogs feet, face, etc. Extreme cold is very different then cold.
OMG so true! I lived in Ohio until I was 26 now VA. I can remember the storm of 1993 that dumped several feet of snow in Akron. For a whole week 0 was the high temp and when you went outside it stole your breath. I do not keep my dogs outside because I enjoy and rely on them to work so I have a doggie door to help. Even in Ohio I remember a neighbor that had a dog Mahal - it had heat for winter and air conditioning for summer. Climate control is imperative. Once years ago I had to deal with a VA gentleman riding his horse through Byrd Park-legal BTW- BUT It was a code Red weather day mid 90's with almost 80% humidity. He tried to babble on about horse heat conditioning and such, but I just explained what legally "Overdriving and animal was". It was amazing how far he and the horse went when he now had to walk it! 😅
 

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But in all of this, I've heard no one talk about barking dogs--uncontrolled barking dogs put outside who bark & bark & bark and even bark uncontrollably when inside. How can ANYONE think it's ok?? It's one of the reasons we moved.

I luv dogs. I luv my "nephews," who are little yippers & are insulted if people don't fawn all over them at Home Depot. After 26 yrs in the same house, I finally don't hear non-stop dog barking when I go out on my driveway in the new house. What a relief!!
IN RVA - Barks, whines, howls, or makes other annoying noises in an excessive, continuous, or untimely fashion. It is legally equated to if the dog does not have an obvious outside stimuli then it could be excessive. So people walking, dogs on leashes even squirrels. Now a dog that is fence aggressive that has a chain link fence is a whole other ball of legal wax. I do not like to hear dogs unless it is necessary and readily reward my dogs when they let go after hearing someone knock on the door-I have a no solicitors/trespassing sign-and the large dogs barking reminds the 💩 head that they shouldn't be on my porch. I work with my dogs to not be yappers since I do like that. My neighbors that are interested are given a replenishing supply of biscuits so they make friends if they wish otherwise I will not let my neighbors be barked at while in their own yard whether they are friends or not. I am losing my hearing, but I am not deaf to my dogs barking!
I had a blue Chow years ago that could go out on the front porch and stay all day not making a sound when people and dogs walked by. She taught herself to bark at the Jehovah's Witnesses every time they Talked to her. She would just stand up and stare at them while chuffing. To this day thanks to that Chow I am on the master list as AVOID!!!
 

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So getting back to the Deadly Heat topic. Here in Maryland the last few days it’s been climbing into the low 90s, with humidity in the mid-70’s. I walked out onto our wooden deck to water a few plants and could feel the heat emanating upward. Grabbed my IR temp sensor.....and the average temperature of the deck was 135-140F.

So, keep those feet - human & animal - up & away from those baking in the sun structures.

Its SUMMER, and it’s painfully hot.
 

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But in all of this, I've heard no one talk about barking dogs--uncontrolled barking dogs put outside who bark & bark & bark and even bark uncontrollably when inside. How can ANYONE think it's ok?? It's one of the reasons we moved.

I luv dogs. I luv my "nephews," who are little yippers & are insulted if people don't fawn all over them at Home Depot. After 26 yrs in the same house, I finally don't hear non-stop dog barking when I go out on my driveway in the new house. What a relief!!
In my opinion, most owners don't realize their dogs bark when they are not home. People complain about it but never tell the owners.
In the city of Chicago there is a nuisance law about barking dogs. It applies to any dog barking nonstop day or night inside or out.
I don't like a dog barking for no reason nonstop. A have a neighbor 3 houses down with 2 dogs and they like to bark at nothing and everything. The people are home, sometimes sitting out on their deck and won't say anything to try and stop them. I just ignore it. I live hear O'hare airport, right in a flight path. Used to live by the L train. Both places were near hospitals and busy streets. Noise for me is normal and easily ignored.
 

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Once again, because someone considers themselves a “pet parent” doesn’t mean they treat that pet like a human. I’m a tortoise mom and I treat my tortoise like a tortoise, as I wrote about in the other thread. You’re way too fixated on this topic and are reading too much into it, in my opinion. I see my happy Father’s Day post in the other thread is eating you up inside too. It’s not a bad or evil thing to consider yourself a pet parent. It brings happiness and light into some peoples lives and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m proud to own my happy…well…sometimes grouchy 😂 but healthy tortoise. I’m proud to be referred to as a tort mom. It’s a badge of honour that I get to care for my tortoise. My point here is, we aren’t all bad people. Some of us pet parents do things by the books, properly and provide the best care possible.
IMO pet parents view their pets as a family member.
Owners think of the pet as a piece of property.
There is good and bad in both, more so though in those that are just owners.
I'm very proud to be a pet mom too!
 

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Beautiful dogs!
What people don't understand about the leash law is the fact the owner is suppose to have 100% control at all times. Even the very best trained dog will possibly have at least one thing that will make them not obey an owners voice command. Hence the reason for the leash.
BUT...ahundred years ago I obedience trained dogs...and if I got a dog who was angry and under-socialized I put a "pinch" collar, those Mastiffs(?) are wearing halters, you cannot have the same control with a pis*ed off dog the size of those. Can ya?
 

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BUT...ahundred years ago I obedience trained dogs...and if I got a dog who was angry and under-socialized I put a "pinch" collar, those Mastiffs(?) are wearing halters, you cannot have the same control with a pis*ed off dog the size of those. Can ya?
Not my dogs, but I too used to train dogs. Btw, the owners are the ones I trained, the dogs were much smarter. Lol
But imo yes, some angry dogs can still be capable of listening to their owners and be held in control with any collar. Not common and not many though I'm sure.
 
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