Well I have a few minutes to update on the Sudans. They have moved from sunny California to rainy (well last couple days anyways) Tennessee. They arrived this past Friday and they seen to have settled in nicely. They like their enclosure and love their humid nite box. I have pretty much spent all my extra minutes with them. Outside living is new to me and I figured new place, enviro men for them might b just as overwhelming but they don't really seem phased by it. Marv is huge and the other 2 aren't far behind. I haven't had time to get the camera out but plan on it shortly. So far Tennessee seems to be ok w them. Lol.