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Size to reliably sex leopards?

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  1. paper_boy

    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    I have been keeping mainly indian stars for the past decade. But recently, i got a deal with a couple of leopards that was irresistible. I have two, one 8” and one 6.5”.

    wishing for a pair but it looks like i got two females. Can you guys confirm?

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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

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    The first one looks female.
    The second one could possibly be male.
    Is there any concaving in the bottom shell?
    2 females would be better then a pair. Males are easier to come by. If you have two females you could add a Male and have a nice little group that should be able to live nicely together in the proper sized enclosure.
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    Lyn W Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    This may help..............
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    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    there is a very very slight dip. Here are some pictures.

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    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    This hatchling looks like its a male, with its very long tail

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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

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    Hatchlings can change quite a bit over the first 2-3 years.
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

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    The one that I said could possibly be Male. I cant see the end of the tail. If it's as short as the other ones tail then you have 2 females.
    That little bit of concaving should be a lot more if it is a Male. However, if it had a bad first few years of improper care, the concaving could be slow to show up. I rescued a Male leopard that had a bad start for 5 years. It couldn't walk, was too small and no concaving. It was raised in a small aquarium. After I got him he grew, would walk and finally started to show his sex. The concaving though is there but no where near what it should be or what my other males is like.
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    what's the significance of the anal plastron scute, I can never remember which is which

    Handle bar mustache [ is more female and V is more male?
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    You asked what size can you reliably tell the sex. Leonard is only a little over a year of age, about 4" SCL, and you can now tell by his tail he's definitely male:

    leonard 1-10-20.jpg

    I don't really think you can go by hard fast rules. Each tortoise is different.
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    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    this is the smaller one.

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    What a huge tail haha
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

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    I'd say my guess would be you have 2 females.
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    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    Thats great! Gotta get me one more then. thanks man
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    When I first had my tort who was already quite large almost 6 years ago, I took it to a vet with an interest in tortoises for a health check,
    He examined the tail and plastron and said my leopard was about 10 years old and a female.
    A couple of months later Lola showed me that that she was actually a he!

    The image is only a guide - no way of reliably knowing when they are hatchlings.
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    paper_boy Member 5 Year Member

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    no way? That must have been a shocker haha.
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    Lyn W Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Yup That's why I have a male tort called Lola.:)
    (I didn't change his name because of the Kinks song).
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    Any guess on these two Leopards?

    They are 9-10 inches, > 5 lbs and will turn 3 years old in 5/2020

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    These two appear to be female, in my opinion.
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