Sexing my 1 year old Greeks

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Guggie

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Hey all! I know I've asked this before, but my Greeks are (to my untrained eye) really starting to show some sexual characteristics. However, at 14 months, I don't even know if that's possible. So, with my wife's help, I took some updated pics. Please take a look and let me know what you think!

Cujo













Tweek















Thank you all!
 

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They both look like males to me. Give them another year or so and you will know for sure. The cloaca on both of them is very far down the tail, which is very much a male characteristic.
 

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It was the difference of the angle of the opening (don't remember the real name) that made me wonder. They seem very different to me.
 

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Do you know for certain that they are 14 months? If so, congratulations, they have grown extremely fast, and are surprisingly smooth for such fast growth.
I think they are big enough to sex. Could you take a pic of their plastrons side by side in the same pic (with tails visible)?

Steve

The first one looks very much male, and the second also looks strongly male, though not as distinctly.
 
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