Sexing manouria emys emys

Subhan

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size 1 21"IMG_20190420_130827.jpg IMG_20190420_130857.jpg IMG_20190420_130905.jpg IMG_20190412_152252.jpg
size 2 17"
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size 3 9"IMG_20190420_131144.jpg IMG_20190420_131205.jpg IMG_20190420_131214.jpg I have 3 MEE, and I don't know their sex. I hope friends here can give opinions. thanks.

1. Size: 21"
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2. Size: 17"
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3. Size: 9”
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To me looks like male, male female, but I'm guessing on #2
 

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thank you for your opinion yvonne, tomorrow I will take a better picture MEE no. 2 for you to check it again:).
 

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Hi, Yvonne, can you tell me what features you are homing in on to sex these? I have had two for 20 years. One is male and i have seen his bits but my other is still unsure. The positive male has mounted the other but today for the first time in 20 years i came home from work and they were scrapping in the garden. Lots of head bobbing, circling and biting (and blood). They only separated when i put iodine on the wounds.
 

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It's hard to tell the difference unless you have a male and female next to each other. A longer tail for the male is a good indicator.
 

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Longer and thinner towards the tip and therfore fatter and shorter for female? Do you have any idea about the biting that i am experiencing? Odd that two males would literally fight, i was wondering whether agravid female would try to drive off a persistent male,? So little info around. Thanks for the answer., anyway.
 

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Longer and thinner towards the tip and therfore fatter and shorter for female? Do you have any idea about the biting that i am experiencing? Odd that two males would literally fight, i was wondering whether agravid female would try to drive off a persistent male,? So little info around. Thanks for the answer., anyway.
Is the fighting just recent ? They could be fighting and females could show dominant behavior. Is your enclosure big enough
 

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Fighting is recent. It hasn't happened since. They have been in the same pen for 20 years, since they were tiny. One is male for sure. Their pen consists of a 6m x 4m glasshouse, with access to a 40m x 10m area with two ponds, so space is not a problem! I do think that the male's tail does look to be thinner than the one i think is female. There was lots of vocalising, head bobbing, biting and farting involved when they squared up to each other. Trashed a 2m x 2m area of vegetation. As i say, all quiet since. They are currently sitting together in vegetation near one of the ponds.
 

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Fighting is recent. It hasn't happened since. They have been in the same pen for 20 years, since they were tiny. One is male for sure. Their pen consists of a 6m x 4m glasshouse, with access to a 40m x 10m area with two ponds, so space is not a problem! I do think that the male's tail does look to be thinner than the one i think is female. There was lots of vocalising, head bobbing, biting and farting involved when they squared up to each other. Trashed a 2m x 2m area of vegetation. As i say, all quiet since. They are currently sitting together in vegetation near one of the ponds.
Very interesting behavior. Possibly 2 males? I have never had this type of behavior from my MT tortoises. Maybe someone else will have insight
 

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I have waited 20 years and am not sure. The male that I know for sure is male, has mounted the other many times, but I have never seen the supposed female doing so.
The attached images are the tails. The line narrow one is a male fur sure. The other definitely looks to be wider and fatter, so I still think female.IMG_20190722_110122830.jpg IMG_20190722_105913909.jpg
 
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