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Reverse Pyramiding

Discussion in 'Aldabra tortoises' started by Rustyiron, Dec 9, 2011.

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  1. Rustyiron

    Rustyiron Member 5 Year Member

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    Remember my Aldabra? my Aldabra were pyramiding, said by many people here on this forum.

    Then, everybody told me to raise the humidity and keep it hydrated, yes I did, I followed all your advice, now my Aldabra is having Reverse Pyramiding :(

    What should I do? My Aldabra is having both pyramids(old) and reverse pyramids(new).
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    jeffbens0n Member 5 Year Member

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    Could you share a picture of this?
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    tortoises101 Active Member 5 Year Member

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    ????
    We need pics.
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    dmarcus Active Member 5 Year Member

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    Pics please and did you change anything else?
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    Baoh Well-Known Member 10 Year Member!

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    I have only had one animal exhibit this. In my case, a little Burmese Brown. His environment is moist and he gets plenty of varied foods that mainly consist of greens, insects, and Mazuri. My Aldabras do not exhibit this. I have seen speculation on the internet that it could be due to insufficient protein, but this animal consumes as much as or more than several other animals, none of which share the appearance.
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    Rustyiron Member 5 Year Member

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    Sorry, my camera can't catch the concave that happened on the new growth rings.

    It is now that, old growth rings are convex, new growth rings are concave:

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    I see nothing to indicate "reverse pyramiding" or any other imaginary ailments.[hr]
    In fact, the new growth looks pretty nice to me.
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    That looks like healthy new growth to me. I see nothing to be concerned about. Looks like you are doing a great job.
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    Rustyiron Member 5 Year Member

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    really? wow, thanks :)

    so I won't worry about the concaves?[hr]
    really? thanks. the photos can't show the concaves. :(
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    Not seeing what I was posting about in your photos.
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    Rustyiron Member 5 Year Member

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    Oh sorry, overlooked your post, :p

    what do you mean? you mean it's due to too much protein and moist? thanks. :)
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    All I see is nice smooth new growth...
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    Rustyiron Member 5 Year Member

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    I see, thank you so much.

    it's 6 inch & 600 gram.

    do tortoises change scutes when they are older?
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    Nope, they keep the same scutes. They just keep getting new growth rings around each scute, and if you keep up the good work with the smooth growth coming in once he is bigger those little raised scutes will hardly be noticeable.
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    No, that is not what I mean.

    I am saying that others have said "reverse pyramiding" (depressed scute areolae relative to the peripheries) is due to too little protein and that I have not observed this to be true. I was also saying that what people have called "reverse pyramiding" is not what I observe in photographs of your animal. Also, since I observe a lack of moisture to not be a factor (as I keep or have kept several animals in identical conditions), I do not know what to make of it.

    Maybe it has something to do with mineral deposition, but I am not sure.
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    What it looks like to me is that your tort was beginning to pyramid, and with better husbandry you have corrected the problem. What you are seeing is proper new growth. The growth lines should not be "stacked" or convex, because that is exactly what pyramids are. It looks lower than the other growth because it is smooth while the older growth is not.

    Pyramiding does not go away. Once a tortoise's shell has grown a particular way, it is that way for life. But by correcting your husbandry, the new growth will be the way it should be. There will always be those little raised areas in the center of the scutes, but because your tortoise is so small now, if you keep doing things correctly, in a few years when your tortoise is bigger it will hardly be noticeable.

    Nothing to worry about. Continue what you are doing.
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    Thank you for your advice, I understand now, will do. ^_^
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    My beautiful Aldabra although has some pyramids :)

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    He looks great! By the time he is 200 pounds those pyramids will be tiny little bumps!
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