So at the local chain pet store that I sometimes go to for fish is a greek tort. He has been there a long time and he has a beautiful shell pattern on him (almost hermann looking). Anyways today I decided I was going have the guy take him out so I could see him up close, he had big clear eyes and definatly a male, but my question do greek males have a large indentation on there plastron? I know my male russian doesn't so I was just wondering.