I just called the pet store where I bought Hermy in February. I spoke with the employee that is in charge of the reptile department (the store is called pet nature). I asked her to give me the name and number of the Hermann breeder and she told me that she did not know. I asked her who order the reptile and she answered me that it was her. I told her I wanted to know the correct age of my tortoise and I really wanted to know the name of the breeder and she told me no because she did not know. I made my point that I really wanted the name and she gave me a name just like that. I checked on the internet and the name does not even exist. She told me the "breeder" came at the store a couple of times with Hermann tortoises and ask if the store wanted to buy them. I called at another store of the same chain and the guy told me that they have a list of breeder and that the store is in charge of the orders, no one come in the store to sell reptiles. I think the girl lied to me, I really dont know why