Outdoor Accommodation in a Colder (UK) Climate

Tidgy's Dad

Well-Known Member
5 Year Member
Joined
Feb 11, 2015
Messages
48,166
Location (City and/or State)
Fes, Morocco
New owner of a Greek tort found this so useful thanks , don't get the weather so great here in Wales as you do in Kent , so found this extremely helpful
Welcome!
I'm half Welsh and well know the climate, though I now live in a place where Greeks occur in the wild.Other Welsh members about too. :)
 
Joined
Jan 22, 2017
Messages
31
Location (City and/or State)
Huntington Beach, California
Hi, @JoesMum.
This cold frame, is it used during the winter months? If so, when they are hibernating, do they mind the sun coming in. I'm sorry. I'm really new to this. I live in Southern California. We don't get very cold here. It's been beautiful for the last week. I am trying to come up with a configuration for her den. I see different things on the forum. Do you have two houses? One for winter and one for summer?
 

JoesMum

Well-Known Member
5 Year Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
21,589
Location (City and/or State)
Kent, South East England
Hi, @JoesMum.
This cold frame, is it used during the winter months? If so, when they are hibernating, do they mind the sun coming in. I'm sorry. I'm really new to this. I live in Southern California. We don't get very cold here. It's been beautiful for the last week. I am trying to come up with a configuration for her den. I see different things on the forum. Do you have two houses? One for winter and one for summer?
@Lauren Tilbury In the winter months Joe hibernates so he does absolutely nothing for 3-4 months.

Until this winter we have always had a hibernation box in the garage, but climate change has made temperature stability an issue. As a result, this winter he's hibernating in a fridge we got specially for the purpose.

If you have a tortoise that's not hibernating for the winter and the weather outside is warm enough there's no reason you couldn't use the cold frame all winter.

It does not provide enough insulation against temperature change for hibernating a tortoise in it though. For successful healthy hibernation temperatures must be stable around 5C/40F and never going below freezing or above 10C/50F
 
Joined
Jan 22, 2017
Messages
31
Location (City and/or State)
Huntington Beach, California
@JoesMum, thank you for the info. I am in Southern California. I am about 15 minutes from Disneyland, but by the beach. It doesn't get too cold here. Right now it's 65 degrees, but warm in the sun. I was wondering about the black slate rocks. I'm having a hard time finding black slate. Can it be any natural rock that is black??
 

JoesMum

Well-Known Member
5 Year Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
21,589
Location (City and/or State)
Kent, South East England
@JoesMum, thank you for the info. I am in Southern California. I am about 15 minutes from Disneyland, but by the beach. It doesn't get too cold here. Right now it's 65 degrees, but warm in the sun. I was wondering about the black slate rocks. I'm having a hard time finding black slate. Can it be any natural rock that is black??
Any dark coloured rocks will do the job. The dark colour absorbs the heat better.

65F is 18C which translates into a pretty nice day in the UK. We'd be more than happy with that! If the sun is out, you should have no problem getting the ground temperature up. :)
 

micki

Member
10 Year Member!
5 Year Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2008
Messages
224
Location (City and/or State)
uk
This is an excellent read. Many thanks for posting it.
 

beccabobbins

New Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2015
Messages
8
I have just finished making an outdoor enclosure in Dorset for my Greek tortoise and I found this such a helpful read.
I'm definitely going to invest in some blue slate chippings and have an area for basking.
My tortoise spends a lot of time indoors under his lamp at the moment but my plan is to let him spend most of days outdoors and bring him in overnight.
On cooler days should I let him warm up under his lamp before I put him out or just pop him in his cold frame?
 

JoesMum

Well-Known Member
5 Year Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
21,589
Location (City and/or State)
Kent, South East England
I have just finished making an outdoor enclosure in Dorset for my Greek tortoise and I found this such a helpful read.
I'm definitely going to invest in some blue slate chippings and have an area for basking.
My tortoise spends a lot of time indoors under his lamp at the moment but my plan is to let him spend most of days outdoors and bring him in overnight.
On cooler days should I let him warm up under his lamp before I put him out or just pop him in his cold frame?
I let Joe warm up under a lamp first.

I tend to think of it as putting him on charge like a mobile phone... if he's got a full charge then he's good for a couple of hours even in the colder days. Joe can of course return to the lamp in the kennel at any point.
 

risepark

New Member
Joined
May 17, 2017
Messages
2
Thanks for a terrific post. Unfortunately we have no neighbours able to come in every day, or relatives. In addition we have a large field to the rear, and I know we get the occasional fox. There is a wildlife park who will look after him, in an enclosed space with heating etc. They are very proffesional, and we will probablly take him there. We have used a local specialist reptile shop, and he is kept in a terrarium. It's just that he loves the outdoors. All the other advice is great, and I thank you. Regards risepark
 

Angel K

New Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
21
Great ideas... so if it is 43 f the blue chips get hotter? I also need safety so I would need to figure out how to do that.
We have Javalina come into our yard and stray cats and was told we have a couple of mountain lions too ... :tort::(
 

katieandiggy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2018
Messages
1,023
Location (City and/or State)
Suffolk, United Kingdom
@JoesMum hi Linda, can you tell me more about your kennel? Did you insulate it with foam or just the reflective material? Also where did you purchase it, ive seen similar on eBay?
Also if there was going to be a prolonged spell of say rain, for a few days or more, what would Joe do? Would he stay in the cold frame or would you put him in the kennel?
Thank you
 
TortoiseSupply.com

New Posts

Top