MBD in a Chameleon

ZEROPILOT

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This is my newest Chameleon. A 5.5 month old VOHEMAR Panther Chameleon.
I just got him yesterday.
He is showing what I believe to be the early onset signs of MBD.
Notice the curving elbows and the mouth not fully closed. (Sometimes)
He goes to see Dr. K (Kelleher) of T.V. fame at 10 this Friday to be diagnosed and possibly treated.
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ZEROPILOT

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You already check for stomatitis?
No
The joints show MBD.
The jaw, I believe, is related.
Although stomatitis is a possibility still.
I'm just guessing.
I only saw that jaw "issue" on the first day. Might've been a fluke.
It looks fine now and his tongue works well.
 
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Tom

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No
The joints show MBD.
The jaw, I believe, is related.
Although stomatitis is a possibility still.
I'm just guessing.
I only saw that jaw "issue" on the first day. Might've been a fluke.
It looks fine now and his tongue works well.
Any tremors or shakes?

What's the weather like there? Outdoor sunshine a possibility?
 

Tom

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No tremors or shakes.
His behavior is pretty normal.
My Chameleons do go outside a few days a week this time of year because it's not too hot for them.
Definitely something to keep an eye on. The instincts of an experienced keeper are usually spot on. If your gut is telling you its MBD, you may be catching early signs, and I'll bet you've caught it in time to stop it with no long term damage.
 

ZEROPILOT

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Definitely something to keep an eye on. The instincts of an experienced keeper are usually spot on. If your gut is telling you its MBD, you may be catching early signs, and I'll bet you've caught it in time to stop it with no long term damage.
I hope so, Tom.
I wish I'd seen those bendy elbows at the shop.
I'll know more on Friday.
 

Chefdenoel10

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New Jersey
This is my newest Chameleon. A 5.5 month old VOHEMAR Panther Chameleon.
I just got him yesterday.
He is showing what I believe to be the early onset signs of MBD.
Notice the curving elbows and the mouth not fully closed. (Sometimes)
He goes to see Dr. K (Kelleher) of T.V. fame at 10 this Friday to be diagnosed and possibly treated.
Will update later. View attachment 315755 View attachment 315756

He is still Gorgeous!!
I got to this post too late...
How was the doctor visit?
What did Dr. K say?
I watch her religiously!!!
I wish I had her for my pet doctor..
I am praying your little guy does NOT have MBD..
Maybe it’s just bad arthritis??
Good luck
🍀
I’ll be waiting to hear from you!! 🤞🤞🤞🤞
 

Chefdenoel10

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New Jersey
It IS MBD
And its pretty bad
Some of his bones. Like toe bones, don't even show up under X ray.
He's going to need perfect husbandry and oral calcium
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He was a patient of Dr. PARDINI today

I am so sorry to hear that...
But it’s not the end of the world ....?
You will do a great job raising him (as with all of your animals)
So ... chin up!
You will be the best thing for him.
And who’s to say YOUR care might not turn things around? It might take a while but who cares. He is worth it!
And I still think he is cuter than ever!!!❤️🤞👍🍀
 

ZEROPILOT

REDFOOT WRANGLER
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He eats, drinks and poops all by himself. Some Chameleons with MBD have issues pooping.
I already screwed up today. I gave him 10 units of calcium instead of 1 due to the markings on my syringe. So tomorrow, I'll skip it altogether.
He seems no worse off for it. Luckily.
 

Chefdenoel10

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Location (City and/or State)
New Jersey
He eats, drinks and poops all by himself. Some Chameleons with MBD have issues pooping.
I already screwed up today. I gave him 10 units of calcium instead of 1 due to the markings on my syringe. So tomorrow, I'll skip it altogether.
He seems no worse off for it. Luckily.

he looks a bit like “Jimmy Durante” to me..
(the nose part)...
🤣😂🥰
 
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