Lumps on leopard's neck? Please help!

[biyeshengplay]

My leopard has been acting normal, but I found some lumps on his neck, it don't feel like they are filled with fluids. I can move them a little, like little balls grow under the skin. And his neck is a bit wide than normal one. Thanks a lot.

 

[Bee62]

My leopard has been acting normal, but I found some lumps on his neck, it don't feel like they are filled with fluids. I can move them a little, like little balls grow under the skin. And his neck is a bit wide than normal one. Thanks a lot.
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Sorry, but I can`t see what you mean. The neck of your tortoise looks normal to me.

 

[biyeshengplay]

Sorry, but I can`t see what you mean. The neck of your tortoise looks normal to me.

Sorry, it looks not obviously. See this picture, I can touch that there are three little balls under the neck skin.

 

[Bee62]

Now I can see it but I have no clue what it could be.
I ask for

@Tom
@zovick
@Yvonne G

for help.

 

[Tom]

Sorry, it looks not obviously. See this picture, I can touch that there are three little balls under the neck skin.

Does this tortoise live alone?

 

[biyeshengplay]

Now I can see it but I have no clue what it could be.
I ask for

@Tom
@zovick
@Yvonne G

for help.

Thanks for your help！

 

[biyeshengplay]

Does this tortoise live alone?

No, I kept this leopard with two RedFoot, since March 2017.
I found there are scars on his neck when I got him, the scars seemed old and getting better. You can see there's still one old scar in this picture. I put my leopard alone at the beginning, and after I found my two RedFoot are friendly when they eat together, I put them together.

 

[JoesMum]

No, I kept this leopard with two RedFoot, since March 2017.
I found there are scars on his neck when I got him, the scars seemed old and getting better. You can see there's still one old scar in this picture. I put my leopard alone at the beginning, and after I found my two RedFoot are friendly when they eat together, I put them together.

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Separate them immediately and separate them permanently.

Leopard tortoises and Redfoots come from different parts of the world.

They require entirely different environmental conditions for health.

They have different diets.

They have evolved to tolerate different pathogens. What one tolerates could kill the other.

Tortoises are territorial loaners. They do not get lonely, want a friend or like each other. They see another tortoise only as a rival for territory and food.

There is always a dominant tortoise and the subordinate one is bullied, physically or mentally, to try to make it leave. For example, cuddling up together is actually one trying to stop the other from sleeping in a particular spot.

Whatever your enclosure is like it is unlikely to be healthy for either. We are happy to look over enclosure and lighting photos to advise on setup.

Please read and act on the following before you have a sick tortoise on your hands.

They're written by species experts working hard to correct the outdated information widely available on the internet and from pet stores and, sadly, from some breeders and vets too.

Beginner Mistakes
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/beginner-mistakes.45180/

How to raise a healthy Leopard Tortoise
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/

Care of Redfoots (on The Tortoise Library)
http://tortoiselibrary.com/species-information-2/chelonoidis/

 

[JoesMum]

The other reason for separating these two immediately is the neck problem. If it isn’t the result of bullying, or the wrong setup, it could well be infectious.

Good thinking @Tom

Does this tortoise live alone?

 

[biyeshengplay]

Separate them immediately and separate them permanently.

Leopard tortoises and Redfoots come from different parts of the world.

They require entirely different environmental conditions for health.

They have different diets.

They have evolved to tolerate different pathogens. What one tolerates could kill the other.

Tortoises are territorial loaners. They do not get lonely, want a friend or like each other. They see another tortoise only as a rival for territory and food.

There is always a dominant tortoise and the subordinate one is bullied, physically or mentally, to try to make it leave. For example, cuddling up together is actually one trying to stop the other from sleeping in a particular spot.

Whatever your enclosure is like it is unlikely to be healthy for either. We are happy to look over enclosure and lighting photos to advise on setup.

Please read and act on the following before you have a sick tortoise on your hands.

They're written by species experts working hard to correct the outdated information widely available on the internet and from pet stores and, sadly, from some breeders and vets too.

Beginner Mistakes
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/beginner-mistakes.45180/

How to raise a healthy Leopard Tortoise
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/

Care of Redfoots (on The Tortoise Library)
http://tortoiselibrary.com/species-information-2/chelonoidis/

Thanks, I really appreciate your help.

But I think my leopard's neck problem is not caused by my RedFoot (May be caused by other tortoise before I have him, I do not know).

I learned lots of experiences through this forum. Keepers in my country know these, but usually do not take these so seriously. We never put a sick tortoise or a baby tortoise together with a strong and big one. We know that mix may take risk. But we try to let two or three healthy tortoises share the enclosure, let them adapt to each other. Keepers usually make only one enclosure, because more enclosure means more places, more lamps, more time to clean them and so on, but if tortoises have attack act or do not adapt to each other after a period of time, we will apart them. Mix species is common in my country, this seems irresponsible, but I have seen someone keep a cat with his mouse, friendly, nothing is definite.

I understand the reason why you told me to separate my tortoises, and I appreciate your replay. I have my judgment, if I found I have to separate them someday, I will.

 

[JoesMum]

Thanks, I really appreciate your help.

But I think my leopard's neck problem is not caused by my RedFoot (May be caused by other tortoise before I have him, I do not know).

I learned lots of experiences through this forum. Keepers in my country know these, but usually do not take these so seriously. We never put a sick tortoise or a baby tortoise together with a strong and big one. We know that mix may take risk. But we try to let two or three healthy tortoises share the enclosure, let them adapt to each other. Keepers usually make only one enclosure, because more enclosure means more places, more lamps, more time to clean them and so on, but if tortoises have attack act or do not adapt to each other after a period of time, we will apart them. Mix species is common in my country, this seems irresponsible, but I have seen someone keep a cat with his mouse, friendly, nothing is definite.

I understand the reason why you told me to separate my tortoises, and I appreciate your replay. I have my judgment, if I found I have to separate them someday, I will.

You should separate them because they come from entirely different environments and have different care needs.

A Leopard Tortoise is a grassland species from Africa - a species that must bask and is entirely vegetarian. It cannot tolerate high protein in its diet and sweet foods like fruit causes digestive and kidney problems.

A Redfoot is a tropical forest tortoise requiring lower brightness, constant warmth day and night, high humidity day and night, UVB but not a hot basking spot. It’s diet includes fruit and protein, but not grass.

If you are keeping these two together then at least one, possibly both, doesn’t have the conditions for good health.

How to raise a healthy Leopard Tortoise
http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/

Care of Redfoot
http://tortoiselibrary.com/species-information-2/chelonoidis/