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looks like she has a slight limp on her left rear in the video ? did the dogs knee come out just recently before the video ? I never seen them painful from it unless it was out or recently out , even then I've put them back in and seen them go about what they were doing like nothing happened ……..did they check for any other knee problems like a partial tear ?
 

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looks like she has a slight limp on her left rear in the video ? did the dogs knee come out just recently before the video ? I never seen them painful from it unless it was out or recently out , even then I've put them back in and seen them go about what they were doing like nothing happened ……..did they check for any other knee problems like a partial tear ?
They did check for the tear or rupture because that was one of my bigger concerns.... she doesn’t offer any resistance or or act bothered at all when you manipulate the area..I am still restricting her activities majorly to be safe though. The limp is so confusing... but in that video, it was a lot better than I have seen at other times. That being said, sometimes she doesn’t limp at all! We will still follow up with an orthopedic vet to be safe.
 

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a really "confusing" limp i've seen young dogs get is pano , panosteitis ........
 

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Update:
We had an appointment today with an orthopedic vet for a second opinion and a follow up... We took new xrays and compared them to the old.... nothing!!! Everything looks great. She doesn’t think the knee should cause the limp and was pretty confused.. she did think of the Pano as a possibility.. we are sending both sets of films to Pet Rays... I should get a call tomorrow ...
 

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Awesome news! A real Orthopedic Vet knows their stuff! In Richmond we have a triple threat in one block- emergency vet/orthopedic-surgery/rye &allergy vets! I have personally known some of these vets for over 15 years and countless surgeries (chow chow entropy)
 

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Awesome news! A real Orthopedic Vet knows their stuff! In Richmond we have a triple threat in one block- emergency vet/orthopedic-surgery/rye &allergy vets! I have personally known some of these vets for over 15 years and countless surgeries (chow chow entropy)
I don’t know if it’s good or not... the unknown is pretty scary.... I would be really freaked if Cinder seemed more bothered but the limp is still pretty disturbing.. at least we are ruling out what it’s not.. maybe during this time, she will grow out if it.. (that’s what I’m prayin for at least.) I wouldn’t mind having your friends in my neighborhood :)

Your Chow is gorgeous but I couldn’t imagine dealing with all that hair... I groom Cinder at.east every other day and she has a gorgeous thick coat... but damn does she shed!
 

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Update:
We had an appointment today with an orthopedic vet for a second opinion and a follow up... We took new xrays and compared them to the old.... nothing!!! Everything looks great. She doesn’t think the knee should cause the limp and was pretty confused.. she did think of the Pano as a possibility.. we are sending both sets of films to Pet Rays... I should get a call tomorrow ...

lots of innocuous reasons for a pup to limp that they do grow out of ……… exercise her a lot , low impact , low torque exercises ……… walking up and down hills , the more the better …….. a radiologist will see pano in an x-ray , it's like an inflammation of the bone ……..
 

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I don’t know if it’s good or not... the unknown is pretty scary.... I would be really freaked if Cinder seemed more bothered but the limp is still pretty disturbing.. at least we are ruling out what it’s not.. maybe during this time, she will grow out if it.. (that’s what I’m prayin for at least.) I wouldn’t mind having your friends in my neighborhood :)

Your Chow is gorgeous but I couldn’t imagine dealing with all that hair... I groom Cinder at.east every other day and she has a gorgeous thick coat... but damn does she shed!
We KILL vacuums at our house that is why we finally upgraded to Dyson's. The wife hits the house everyday with the cordless and the weekned it gets the corded animal. Oddly enough a godd bath helps and a good conditioner is a must! I use Earthbath Oatmeal and Aloe. PM me if you ever want a sample. I have groomed long haired dogs for years-wife's preference and a range of coat types so I have tried a ton.
 

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Just a reminder, coming from a 40+ year pet professional, since so many here have mentioned such health issues:
Just like tortoises, there are breeders, then there are really great breeders.
Always seek out the really great breeders for dogs. They utilize DNA and other diagnostic tests before breeding their animals. Most breeds have tests specific to them. Google OFA or CHIC Health tests.
There is a certification one can get thru OFA for patellas. As this is a genetic problem. Bad knees beget bad knees.
But even with testing, a pup or two may fall short. Your breeder should be informed, so they can remove parents, and other relatives from their breeding program.
 

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Update.... except it’s not really very informative... we have been back to the ortho and back to our regular vet who is now consulting with a bulldog specialist... Cinders knee is improving:). Her limp is not. The report from the radiologist on two different sets of films was inconclusive. They asked for a couple more shots (which we sent in today ) but gave us no diagnosis. She has many people stumped now. They wouldn’t dare send her into surgery at this point for a knee that’s already improved but we have to make sure that we are not missing something that must be treated now... her exam today went so well that it only added more confusion... Whatever causes her to limp is not painful during manipulation.... so now we again wait on the new radiology report and the conclusion from bulldog specialist consult.
 

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Update.... except it’s not really very informative... we have been back to the ortho and back to our regular vet who is now consulting with a bulldog specialist... Cinders knee is improving:). Her limp is not. The report from the radiologist on two different sets of films was inconclusive. They asked for a couple more shots (which we sent in today ) but gave us no diagnosis. She has many people stumped now. They wouldn’t dare send her into surgery at this point for a knee that’s already improved but we have to make sure that we are not missing something that must be treated now... her exam today went so well that it only added more confusion... Whatever causes her to limp is not painful during manipulation.... so now we again wait on the new radiology report and the conclusion from bulldog specialist consult.
LOL!!! Dang I love this dog!
 

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did they ever give her something like rimadyl and see if it cleared up the limp ??????
 

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did they ever give her something like rimadyl and see if it cleared up the limp ??????
She is on Rimadyl now still and has been..... she is slowly improving but they are still not 100% what the problem is. We know she had the luxating patella but that is vastly improved.. There have been a lot of possibilities ruled out for various reasons and Her case is now being reviewed by a bulldog specialist in Texarkana.. I should hear back the middle of next week on that.. I’m starting to believe that it must be related to the massive growth spurt that happened within 2months... no other dog breed that I can think of gains that much weight in such a short amount of time... it’s bound to stress your joints and bones. She should be leveling out now and I have her on many supplements.. she is not overweight at all, just very much the bulldog shape. I am praying that this is all it is..
 
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