Found this guy. He doesn't ring a bell for me. Not a cooter or red eared. Definitely old. He has no pattern on his skin front set eyes and very very long nails. Very pronounced gular. Map maybe? He has me boggled.
emysemys said:How about a melanistic chicken turtle?
tortadise said:I am about 10 hours north of the natural range for Pseudemys gorzugi. Hmmm well he obviously didnt stay in the fish pond so cant clean him up to see any possible markings. Cool guy though was very very old specimen.
My identification method of this guy was the setting of his eyes. They are quite big and round and set in more of forward location rather than a side to side like most the cooters or sliders. I dunno. I kinda wish I kept him but didn't have a 200 gallon tank set up.
theTurtleRoom said:tortadise said:I am about 10 hours north of the natural range for Pseudemys gorzugi. Hmmm well he obviously didnt stay in the fish pond so cant clean him up to see any possible markings. Cool guy though was very very old specimen.
My identification method of this guy was the setting of his eyes. They are quite big and round and set in more of forward location rather than a side to side like most the cooters or sliders. I dunno. I kinda wish I kept him but didn't have a 200 gallon tank set up.
With how common nelsoni and rubriventris are/were in the hobby, one of them could have been released where you are, too. I figure its possible someone snagged a gorzugi hatchling on a "vacation" and eventually released it, too. Definitely looks like a member of the Red-Belly clade, though (which are the 4 species I mentioned above).