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What subspecies do you all think this is? Sorry for the fuzzy pics.

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its hard to tell with those pics. It sort of looks like his 5th vertebral scute is large so I would venture to guess, antakyensis Greek.
 

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It does look like a female T.g.antakyensis :D

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egyptiandan said:
It does look like a female T.g.antakyensis :D

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What can you tell me about this subspecies or can you direct me to a link that gives in depth description? I had no luck with Google, although I did find pics of a hatchling you had on turtletimes.com Danny.
 

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Feeding habits are the same as any other Greek tortoise. Weight for size can be checked here. Use the condition calculations to do that. http://www.ahailey.f9.co.uk/menu.htm
She'll probably get 6 to 8 inches SCL (straight carapace length).
They don't hibernate and don't like cool night time temperatures, under 60F mine get runny noses. Their habitat is warm, dry scrubland with short bushes, succulents, grasses and flowering plants.

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Chosen2030, Chosen, Most of the time Mediterranean Greeks or Testudo Graeca subspecies (a total of about 15) are lumped together as their habitat, diet and hibernation tends to be similar. T.g. antakyensis or Testudo graeca subspecies Antakyensis, are found in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel. I would research the Geographic’s in these regions to find better ideas on what type of tarain they live in and climate.
Here are a couple of sites I had saved regarding these Torts. I myself have Antakyensis-Jordanian/Israeli natural crosses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptiles_of_Lebanon
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Testudo_graeca
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/amre/2007/00000028/00000001/art00011
http://membres.lycos.fr/testudo/testudograecataxonomie.html
http://www.tortoisetrust.org/articles/golden.htm
 

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egyptiandan said:
Feeding habits are the same as any other Greek tortoise. Weight for size can be checked here. Use the condition calculations to do that. http://www.ahailey.f9.co.uk/menu.htm
She'll probably get 6 to 8 inches SCL (straight carapace length).
They don't hibernate and don't like cool night time temperatures, under 60F mine get runny noses. Their habitat is warm, dry scrubland with short bushes, succulents, grasses and flowering plants.

Danny

So they don't hibernate at all? Any other subspecies that don't hibernate? What about estivation?
 

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Hi Frank,
Jordanian greeks (T.g.ssp), Golden greeks (T.g.terrestris) and any of the North African greeks don't hibernate. I have 80 to 100% fertility with these subspecies.
They can all aestivate, but I wouldn't do it on purpose. :D

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i was replying to your reply to Danny with a link made by Danny of a more detailed DESCRIPTION, when you use that word it usual means a DESCRIPTION of the tortoise, if you want husbadry questions answered you need to specify that ;)
I don't hold grudges, well not often anyway lol
 

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stells said:
i was replying to your reply to Danny with a link made by Danny of a more detailed DESCRIPTION, when you use that word it usual means a DESCRIPTION of the tortoise, if you want husbadry questions answered you need to specify that ;)
I don't hold grudges, well not often anyway lol

I get you point. I'm new to this so I mistakenly thought that HUSBANDRY only had to do with breeding. Still learning the lingo.
 
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