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Hybrid - leopard and sulcata cross

Discussion in 'Leopard tortoises' started by sulley13, Apr 26, 2014.

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  1. sulley13

    sulley13 Member 5 Year Member

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    I've just picked up this little beauty and thought I would share some pictures.

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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member Tortoise Club

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    I'm not fond of people crossing species, but they do look cute.
  3. sulley13

    sulley13 Member 5 Year Member

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    I wouldn't do it myself. This one needed a new home so I took her in.
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    shanu303 Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    people are trying to breed animals from 2 very different Genus.... it's really sad as they're polluting the gene pool....
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    Yvonne G Old Timer TFO Admin 10 Year Member! Platinum Tortoise Club

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    I'm pretty sure leopard tortoises and sulcata tortoises are in the same genus...geochelone. I hope you hang onto this tortoise long enough for us to follow its progress. I've always wondered what an adult ends up like - size-wise and looks-wise.
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    diamondbp Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    regardless of the different opinions, I think it's a unique looking tortoise.
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    bouaboua Well-Known Member 5 Year Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

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    There need to be a limit. Lots so call "hybrid" animal are muted from reproduction.

    It is a special looking Torts for sure but I'm not fond of cross breeding also. even though they have the same genus.
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    Yvonne G Old Timer TFO Admin 10 Year Member! Platinum Tortoise Club

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    Well, I don't care what anyone thinks. You are not the one who bred the tortoises. You have a beautiful animal, and I'm very interested in watching it grow. I hope you keep us in the loop.
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    Lol sounds like nazi rhetoric. Ze polluting of ze races!

    Seriously though very pretty tort.
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    shanu303 Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    i'm not blaming the OP but i am indeed criticising the Breeder, see this is what we humans are flawed at... just because the outcome is aesthetically pleasing to our eyes it does not mean that we play with the power of genetics for which Nature has made rules to keep species different...reproductive isolation(to prevent crossbreeding ) even though they live in same habitat.... i don't intend to start any argument or debate here....

    @Yvonne G here is an excerpt from wikipedia....
    "The Leopard tortoise (Stigmochelys pardalis) is a large and attractively marked tortoise found in the savannas of eastern and southern Africa, from Sudan to the southern Cape. It is the only member of the genus Stigmochelys, but in the past it was commonly placed in Geochelone instead." i might be wrong here and if then please correct me :) ...i'm still new to the scientific naming stuff...

    and @sulley13 i don't blame you for this.....
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    bigred Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Very interesting tortoise, I went to a tortoise show quite a few years back and saw a sulcata/radiated mix. This was before I had any radiated, I wish I would have taken a picture af it
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    sulley13 Member 5 Year Member

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    I understand that these are two completely different species of Tortoise and I wouldn't condone mixing them myself, I appreciate that I am not to blame for the production of this Tortoise but none the less, it is still a beautiful, placid Tortoise and requires the that it needs. I will continue to post updates of its well being as I am curious as to how it will grow as well. I don't want to offend anyone but I felt that everyone should be able to follow the progress of this unique animal. If anyone does have any questions about it then I would be more than happy to answer them if I can.
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    Grandpa Turtle 144 Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Everything is about the breeder . I would like to thank the member for saving the poor tort . He cannt help how he got in to this nasty world . But the member cared enough to save it . Thank you for caring about torts


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    Very awesome I plan to get one, one day
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    Here is something to ponder......
    Perhaps the most enduring debate in reptile systematics has involved the giant Galápagos tortoises (Geochelone nigra), whose origins and systematic relationships captivated Charles Darwin and remain unresolved to this day. Here we report a phylogenetic reconstruction based on mitochondrial DNA sequences from Galápagos tortoises and Geochelone from mainland South America and Africa. The closest living relative to the Galápagos tortoise is not among the larger-bodied tortoises of South America but is the relatively small-bodied Geochelone chilensis, or Chaco tortoise. The split between G. chilensis and the Galápagos lineage probably occurred 6 to 12 million years ago, before the origin of the oldest extant Galápagos island.
    http://www.pnas.org/content/96/23/13223.long


    Oh yea .....remember these?
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    And that's a keeper Sulley :) ..................wish I would have held on to mine:rolleyes:
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    Pretty little thing!
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    Elohi Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    How it came to be might be frowned up one but it's incredibly beautiful.


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    I'm fond of many of the different hybrids that have been produced. The pardalis/denticulata are particularly attractive.

    That's an exceptional animal you have there, regardless of whether or not it is a hybrid or "pure".

    Please post updates from time to time with current stats so we can all see how he/she develops over time.
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    jtrux Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Meant to type carbonaria, not denticulata. Whoops.
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    It;s so wrong in so many ways
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