Hermanns Boys or Girls?

AgathaandOlive

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Hello,
We've recently adopted two tortoises as their own passed away. We were told they were both females but one has started having a little pink bulge protrude from her bottom. Photo one is Olive (the one with the protruding lump but it's tucked away) and photo two is Agatha (no lump).
I've searched online and it's only protruding a centimetre or two so I can't tell if it's a penis or not. Could anyone advise?
Thanks
Siân

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Can't tell the size/age, but both certainly look female.

Females can indeed display a much smaller sex organ, but it is much less common to see than a male "showing off"!
 

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Hello,
We've recently adopted two tortoises as their own passed away. We were told they were both females but one has started having a little pink bulge protrude from her bottom. Photo one is Olive (the one with the protruding lump but it's tucked away) and photo two is Agatha (no lump).
I've searched online and it's only protruding a centimetre or two so I can't tell if it's a penis or not. Could anyone advise?
Thanks
Siân
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I really think the first picture is male. I have a male Hermann’s who just starting showing his boy bits about a month ago. I would only see the very tip of it and was confused as to what I was seeing but assumed it was his penis. Then in the last few days...he’s put on the full show and has now made friends with a large rock in his enclosure. 😂 The tail in the first pic looks quite long for a female and the way the vent is more puffy and puckered is what leads me to think it’s male. How big is this tortoise and how much does he/she weigh?
 

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I really think the first picture is male. I have a male Hermann’s who just starting showing his boy bits about a month ago. I would only see the very tip of it and was confused as to what I was seeing but assumed it was his penis. Then in the last few days...he’s put on the full show and has now made friends with a large rock in his enclosure. 😂 The tail in the first pic looks quite long for a female and the way the vent is more puffy and puckered is what leads me to think it’s male. How big is this tortoise and how much does he/she weigh?
Oh gosh!
Olive (or Oliver!) weighs 1329grams and Agatha weighs 1567grams - we have no idea of their ages but think Olive is a bit younger as her shell is in better condition.
 

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It’s hard to say for sure. @HermanniChris are you able to help sex these two tortoises? Chris is the expert, so hopefully he can stop by to give you some answers.
 

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Both animals are in fact females and what you’re seeing that’s protruding is the female’s clitoris. I can’t tell you how many people are fooled by this, which in return makes them think male.
 

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Both animals are in fact females and what you’re seeing that’s protruding is the female’s clitoris. I can’t tell you how many people are fooled by this, which in return makes them think male.
You are so brilliant THANK YOU! There's so few photos online I was starting to worry. We've only had them a couple of weeks and adore them so much already :)
 

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Well, there you go! @Markw84 had it right to begin with! This one fooled me, but I’m glad you got your concrete answer. I am glad you shared the picture of what you were seeing. I have read that females can show their clitoris, but I hadn’t actually seen what that looked like until now. This will be helpful for other to see as well.
 

cstomi

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Hi! Do I have two females? They size: 10cm.
Thank you, for your answers!
 

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