We got our pair a year ago and were told they were "Herman's" now I have educated myself more thoroughly. I am still having trouble identifying their subspecies as they exhibit traits from western Hermann's but I have my doubts. Included is photos of the female as I was just bathing her. I'll post pictures of the male later if necessary, for reference the point of my thumb to pointer finger included in a photo is exactly 7 3/4 inch making them about just over 6inch carapace.
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