Has anyone heard of this person?

Amanda81

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Michael Valdez from NY, NY

I found an ad on pet classified advertising multiple species of tortoise. I emailed just to check on availability and prices. I get an email back containing a price list of each specie offered. I emailed the list with prices back to confirm it wasn't a miss print. He is offering the following:
This is copied and pasted straight from the email I got
RADIATED TORTOISE,

BABY $345
JUVENILES $450
SUB ADULTS $560
ADULTS $670

GALAPAGOS TORTOISE

BABY $380
JUVENILES $470
SUB ADULTS $500
ADULTS $580

SULCATA TORTOISE,

BABY $185
JUVENILES $215
SUB ADULTS $300
ADULTS $375

LEOPARD TORTOISE

BABY $165
JUVENILES $245
SUB ADULTS $285
ADULTS $350

RUSSIAN TORTOISE,

BABY $245
JUVENILES $295
SUB ADULTS $300
ADULTS $350

EGYPTIAN TORTOISES,

BABY $165
JUVENILES $230
SUB ADULTS $280
ADULTS $350

RED FOOT

BABY ....175
JUVENILE...$200
SUBADULT ...$225
ADULT ,,..$350


HERMANN TORTOISE,
BABY............200
JUVENILE ..........$250
SUB ADULT..........$350
ADULT..............$400

GREEK TORTOISE,
BABY............200
JUVENILE ..........$250
SUB ADULT..........$300
ADULT..............$350

PANCAKE TORTOISE,
BABY............270
JUVENILE ..........$300
SUB ADULT..........$370
ADULT..............$450

STAR TORTOISE

BABY............270
JUVENILE ..........$300
SUB ADULT..........$370
ADULT..............$450


STAR TORTOISE
BABY INDIAN STAR TORTOISE
$500.00
BABY SRI LANKAN STAR TORTOISE
$550.00
INDIAN STAR TORTOISES
$600.00
SRI LANKAN STAR TORTOISE
$650


BURMESE MOUNTAIN TORTOISES

$600



BABY ALDABRA TORTOISE

$1700


JUVENILE ALDABRA TORTOISE

$2,000.00


YELLOWFOOT TORTOISES


BABY YELLOWFOOT TORTOISE

$125.00

JUVENILE YELLOWFOOT TORTOISE

$200.00


BABY MARGINATED TORTOISE

$165.00

MARGINATED TORTOISE ADULT

$300.00


BABY ELONGATED TORTOISE
$200.00
ELONGATED JUNVENILE TORTOISE
$220.00

We also have the following species,

Homopus Tortoise,
Chersina Tortoise,
Elongated Tortoise,

These prices really send up a red flag to me. He also said if I order 5 or more he would throw in a free one. I'm going to keep communicating with him and try to get more info. Anyone heard or dealt with with him?
 

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Michael Valdez from NY, NY

I found an ad on pet classified advertising multiple species of tortoise. I emailed just to check on availability and prices. I get an email back containing a price list of each specie offered. I emailed the list with prices back to confirm it wasn't a miss print. He is offering the following:
This is copied and pasted straight from the email I got
RADIATED TORTOISE,

BABY $345
JUVENILES $450
SUB ADULTS $560
ADULTS $670

GALAPAGOS TORTOISE

BABY $380
JUVENILES $470
SUB ADULTS $500
ADULTS $580

SULCATA TORTOISE,

BABY $185
JUVENILES $215
SUB ADULTS $300
ADULTS $375

LEOPARD TORTOISE

BABY $165
JUVENILES $245
SUB ADULTS $285
ADULTS $350

RUSSIAN TORTOISE,

BABY $245
JUVENILES $295
SUB ADULTS $300
ADULTS $350

EGYPTIAN TORTOISES,

BABY $165
JUVENILES $230
SUB ADULTS $280
ADULTS $350

RED FOOT

BABY ....175
JUVENILE...$200
SUBADULT ...$225
ADULT ,,..$350


HERMANN TORTOISE,
BABY............200
JUVENILE ..........$250
SUB ADULT..........$350
ADULT..............$400

GREEK TORTOISE,
BABY............200
JUVENILE ..........$250
SUB ADULT..........$300
ADULT..............$350

PANCAKE TORTOISE,
BABY............270
JUVENILE ..........$300
SUB ADULT..........$370
ADULT..............$450

STAR TORTOISE

BABY............270
JUVENILE ..........$300
SUB ADULT..........$370
ADULT..............$450


STAR TORTOISE
BABY INDIAN STAR TORTOISE
$500.00
BABY SRI LANKAN STAR TORTOISE
$550.00
INDIAN STAR TORTOISES
$600.00
SRI LANKAN STAR TORTOISE
$650


BURMESE MOUNTAIN TORTOISES

$600



BABY ALDABRA TORTOISE

$1700


JUVENILE ALDABRA TORTOISE

$2,000.00


YELLOWFOOT TORTOISES


BABY YELLOWFOOT TORTOISE

$125.00

JUVENILE YELLOWFOOT TORTOISE

$200.00


BABY MARGINATED TORTOISE

$165.00

MARGINATED TORTOISE ADULT

$300.00


BABY ELONGATED TORTOISE
$200.00
ELONGATED JUNVENILE TORTOISE
$220.00

We also have the following species,

Homopus Tortoise,
Chersina Tortoise,
Elongated Tortoise,

These prices really send up a red flag to me. He also said if I order 5 or more he would throw in a free one. I'm going to keep communicating with him and try to get more info. Anyone heard or dealt with with him?
i would check some of the past post, some one made a thread a few weeks back about a scammer with pretty much the same list and pricing that you just posted, i would be careful, just find a good breeder on here, or i also recommend theturtlesource.com . some people have had a hard time reaching them, but i did get a great animal from them, the price was right, the tortoise came healthy, and it was an overall good buy.
 

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tell him i'd like to sell him 1000 sulcata babies , $150 each. just send the money to me first. ;)
 

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Send him lots of money and then come back and tell us what he sends you.

I'll take 1000 galops and 1000 radiated tortoises at that price. He can keep the $185 sulcatas though.
Ya I found it odd that the pricey ones were cheap and the ones that are on the lower end are high. I did a name search on here before I posted thread just to see and it came up with nothing but I'm sure he uses different names. Surely someone won't fall for this. I just thought I would put it out here, just in case. Of course I ain't sending him any money but I have been emailing him. He came up w some nice pics of everything I told him I was interested in.
 

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i would check some of the past post, some one made a thread a few weeks back about a scammer with pretty much the same list and pricing that you just posted, i would be careful, just find a good breeder on here, or i also recommend theturtlesource.com . some people have had a hard time reaching them, but i did get a great animal from them, the price was right, the tortoise came healthy, and it was an overall good buy.
Oh ya, I had no intentions on buying from him. I have already found a breeder on here for my next addition. I just found it outrageous and thought I would share the crazyness, us I wanted to see if anyone had heard or dealt with this guy. He isn't a good liar. The original email address was something like [email protected] but yet he said his name is Michael and with the first email he sent, he gave me another email to contact him with. Weird.
 

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Well I'm very glad you saw right through the scam and made the rest of us aware of it too. Thank you.

But I'm really bummed I won't be getting a bunch of hatchling Galops for $385 a piece...
 

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Well I'm very glad you saw right through the scam and made the rest of us aware of it too. Thank you.

But I'm really bummed I won't be getting a bunch of hatchling Galops for $385 a piece...
Me too. Lol. I told him I was in market for 3-5 leopards, 6-10 Egyptians, 2 galops, and 2-5 Aldabra. I told him I needed a quick transaction and I would need to see pics of available animals. He shoot me the pics right back. I guess he thought he had me on the hook. Lol.
 

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Me too. Lol. I told him I was in market for 3-5 leopards, 6-10 Egyptians, 2 galops, and 2-5 Aldabra. I told him I needed a quick transaction and I would need to see pics of available animals. He shoot me the pics right back. I guess he thought he had me on the hook. Lol.
These are the pics that were sent to me.
 

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Some of those pics are from forum members here. I recognize them.

I wonder if we can get the police involved. This is already fraud and its attempted theft since he's obviously not going to be able to send anyone these tortoises after they pay him.
 

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Some of those pics are from forum members here. I recognize them.

I wonder if we can get the police involved. This is already fraud and its attempted theft since he's obviously not going to be able to send anyone these tortoises after they pay him.
It is sad, and I really hope no one falls for it. I will c if I can report his ads. He had like 8all the same just worded differently, on that pet classified site. Maybe we can get ads took down, stop the source. I don't know about police where u at but the police here wouldn't do anything but tell ya to stay off the internet. Their not a big help around here.
 

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Hey! Jeff! Someone is selling your Galapagos! Cheap too! Haha Man some people!
 
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