Well went to the hamburg reptile show this past Saturday. It was a decent show very crowded. Went with the intention of picking up a hingeback tortoise but unfortunately the only one they had was sold before I could get it. The rest of the tortoises I saw I wasn't that impressed with I think to over priced for a reptile show. But I did pick up one more African bullfrog, corn snake and my daughter got her male Kenyan sand boa. Guess I'm going to have to wait awhile to get my hinge back.