I rarely see other sulcatas so i was excited to see they had them at Gulf World in panama city fl. I thought they would be great specimens but was disappointed. They have three on exhibit and they all looked terrible, really bad pyramiding on all three, one seemed almost flat, very lethargic, ony one moved about six inches from the time i first saw them [about three hours]. No hides, no fresh water, only dry grass as food. I did speak with one of the owners and expressed my concerns. He seemed oblivious to it and i shared some ideas and asked him to do some research. sad, sad.