Eager to purchase a Tort....previous turtle owner but I want to make it perfect!!!

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Jharris1385

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I hate to say newbie but I am to the tortoise world but NOT the rest. I have had MANY turtles over my lifetime and think i want to dive into the tortoise world.

While young and growing up and in the shadows of my father who owned and rescued turtles, we have had many box turtles and a few painted turtles in a very large outdoor enclosure. They all survived, even had hatchings and etc. I then tried the aquatic scene with some RES and a Map or two. They have all gone to larger habitats once grown and ready.
I wanted to state that in order for you all to be able to differentiate me from someone with zero experience or knowledge. However I would like to almost play as though I don't know anything about tortoises so I can hear some vital information or tips that some may just pass over.

First I can not decide if I want a larger species or smaller....

Second, I live in southern Indiana, near the Ohio River (Louisville, KY). That is for climate reference. I would build an outdoor facility for it and do have I assume ample land (1 acre).

Third, for winter and indoor enclosure and the reason I finally think I can properly visit this idea... My basement is half concrete floor and some crawl space with filled dirt at about waist height (3-4ft from ground and another 3-4ft till rafters). This portion of the basement is well..useless. No pipes underneath and actually under two of the bedrooms and one bath. It is dirt, but old if that matters? It is maybe 30X15. It is easily accessible as for the span of the 30ft or so is an I beam and roughly 8 verticle 2x4's. My concerns are not limited to the substrate of older dirt? The reality of the possible smells that could be associated, considering the relativity near living spaces (Hard wood floors above rafters - somewhat more porous than carpet.)

Feeding an adult...how much in weight or easily pictured food would an adult sulcata consume daily? And how quickly could this amount be reached in terms of years of growth in comparison to a smaller say russian?

I appologize if this is not in the correct spot on the forums and for the length. But I could assume you would appreciate my attempts to verify I have the correct conditions or idea in set prior to purchase/adoption in order for it to thrive a healthy lifestyle.

Read more: http://www.tortoiseforum.org/Thread...ed-many-turtles-just-not-a-Tort#ixzz1EZ9PJ22G
 

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Welcome to the forum.May we know your name? I'll let the sulcata experts answer your question,but a sulcata is going to pass the Russian pretty quickly in amounts of food consumed.
 

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if you want a sulcata, Id read that section and ask your questions there. A basement is not so great if it is down stairs.. how are you going to carry a 50 + lb tort in and out? Plus they are diggers and with all your pipes, and stuff.. i think it would be a disaster waiting to happen..
You can build a shed and heat it in the pasture. that would be perfect. Look at getting a rescue. One that is already grown and needs a new home.
oh.. and WELCOME!
 

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While I would like to have a rescue one since that is what I have done many times in the past with other turtles...I really want a baby tortoise since I will be having this one for years to come and it would more so solidify idea of it pairing with me better.

There are not any wires or pipes under the ground in this area. I did never think of the possible struggle of getting a very large sulcata out, since it is only about 4ft high. I was just throwing this idea out there. Carrying it at that weight would not be an issue though.

What is the easiest to one to care for with the lowest or lower humidity requirements?

I just love the size the sulcata can grow to. I have had an 1ft wide RES before and it just seems to be more fun either the larger they are or when they are hatchling size.

I will try to post a picture at some point of the room in question.
 

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Welcome. I too have turtles and wanted to cross over and get a tortoise. Every day is a learning experience with my red foot.
 

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I believe the Sulcata is the 3rd largest tortoise in the world. Then It's Galapagos and finally Aldabra.
 

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Jharris1385 said:
How about from smallest to largest of the most popular pet species?

I've heard the Russians stay fairly small if not the smallest I could be wrong :p . I've heard they are the best tort breeds to start with.
 

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fmadrigal said:
I believe the Sulcata is the 3rd largest tortoise in the world. Then It's Galapagos and finally Aldabra.

Good try its Aldabra then Galapagos ;)

Russians stay the smallest but IMO they are the least attractive looking. Redfoots grow to be at most 11inches and they have pretty colors.
 

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greeks stay small and are quite common, (have 5 , 1.1.3) Hermans stay small and are very pretty.(have none)
the smallest tort in the world is the padloper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speckled_padloper_tortoise
they are very cool!!!

I also love pancake tortoises, they are small, suitable in a tort table for life as long as its a large one. males are alot smaller, mines about 5 inches and the females will get 7inches or so, thats about the same as greeks...
torts2-13-11063.jpg

this is my male pancake, Kobe
jakebehinddarby.jpg

and this is my pair of greeks jake and darby
 

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Found this: Only 2 flaws I could find

Southern Albermarle Galapagos tortoise, Chelonoidis vicina-----------150cm
Aldabra tortoise, Dipsochelys dussumieri---------------------------140cm
Southern Indefatigable Galapagos tortoise, Chelonoidis porteri--------130cm
Northern Indefatigable Galapagos tortoise, C. sp---------------------120cm (soon to be named)
Northern Albermarle Galapagos tortoise, C. becki---------------------105cm
Abingdon Galapagos tortoise, C. abingdonii---------------------------98cm
James Galapagos tortoise, C. darwini---------------------------------97cm
Chatham Galapagos tortoise, C. chatamensis-------------------------89cm
African spurred tortoise, Centrochelys sulcata-----------------------84.5cm
Duncan Galapagos tortoise, Chelonoidis duncanensis-----------------84cm
Yellowfoot tortoise, C. denticulata----------------------------------82cm
Leopard tortoise, Stigmochelys pardalis------------------------------78cm
Hood Galapagos tortoise, Chelonoidis hoodensis----------------------75cm
Bolson's tortoise, Gopherus flavomarginatus-------------------------68cm
Redfoot tortoise, Chelonoidis carbonaria-----------------------------61cm
Asian mountain tortoise, Manouria emys-----------------------------60cm
Plowshare tortoise, Astrochelys yniphora----------------------------49cm
Gopher tortoise, G. polyphemus-------------------------------------47cm
Radiated tortoise, A. radiata----------------------------------------45cm
Patagonian tortoise, Chelnoidis chilensis------------------------------44cm
Marginated tortoise, Testudo marginata------------------------------40cm
Greek tortoise, T. graeca--------------------------------------------38cm
Star tortoise, Geochelone elegans------------------------------------38cm
Desert tortoise, Gopherus agassizii-----------------------------------38cm
Hermanns tortoise, Testudo hermanni--------------------------------36cm
Elongated tortoise, Indotestudo elongata----------------------------36cm
Travancore tortoise, Indotestudo travancorica-----------------------34cm
Chaco tortoise, Chelonoidis petersi----------------------------------32cm
Forest hingeback tortoise, Kinixys erosa-----------------------------32cm
Celebes tortoise, Indotestudo forstenii------------------------------31cm
Impressed tortoise, Manouria impressa------------------------------31cm
Russian tortoise, Agrionemys horsfieldii------------------------------28cm
Bowsprit tortoise, Chersina angulata--------------------------------26cm
Burmese Star tortoise, Geochelone platynota------------------------26cm
Home's hingeback tortoise, Kinixys homeana-------------------------25cm
Texas tortoise, Gopherus berlandieri--------------------------------23cm
Bell's hingeback tortoise, Kinixys belliana----------------------------22cm
Speke's hingeback tortoise, K. spekii--------------------------------20cm
Geometric tortoise, Psammobates geometricus----------------------20cm
Pancake tortoise, Malacochersus tornieri---------------------------20cm
Lobatse hingeback tortoise, Kinixys lobatsiana----------------------17cm
Natal hingeback tortoise, K. natalensis-----------------------------16cm
Karoo cape tortoise, Homopus femoralis----------------------------16cm
Spider tortoise, Pyxis arachnoides---------------------------------15cm
Tent tortoise, Psammobates tentorius-----------------------------15cm
Egyptian tortoise, Testudo kleinmanni------------------------------14cm
Serrated tortoise, Psammobates oculifer----------------------------13cm
Flat-tailed tortoise, Pyxis planicauda-------------------------------12cm
Parrot-beaked tortoise, Homopus areolatus-------------------------12cm
Boulenger's cape tortoise, H. boulengeri----------------------------11cm
Namibian tortoise, H. solus-----------------------------------------10cm
Speckled tortoise, H. signatus--------------------------------------9.5cm
 

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onarock said:
Found this: Only 2 flaws I could find

Southern Albermarle Galapagos tortoise, Chelonoidis vicina-----------150cm

wow!!! that just over 5 feet!!
pretty interesting chart
 

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Ok guys...let's not get John's thread off track. He's looking for advice about keeping sulcata and Russian. There are other threads on the forum that list the tortoises and their sizes.
 

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I wish there was a stronger forum here for Marginated....I really like their colors.
 

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There are alot of marginated keepers on shelled warriors. They have some good info on them over there

Jharris1385 said:
I wish there was a stronger forum here for Marginated....I really like their colors.
 
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