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I'm re-posting these pictures so that they can be used as a sticky thread for faster viewing.

Differences between Geochelone Carbonaria (red-foot) and Geochelone Denticula (yellow-foot).

Dorsal view of male red-foot on left and male yellow-foot on right. Notice hourglass shape of red-foot.
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Ventral view of male red-foot and male yellow-foot. Note wide anal scutes, concave plastron, and long tail.
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Front view of males. Note scale coloration on legs.
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Dorsal view of female red-foot on left and female yellow-foot on right. No hourglass shape.
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Ventral view of females. No concavity on plastron, semi-circular anal scutes, and short tail.
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Dorsal head view of red-foot (left) and yellow-foot (right). Red-foots have a single prefrontal scale at the tip of the nose, while yellows have two large prefrontal scales running parallel to one another.
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Please add anymore information for others who want to know more about the differences between the two species.

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RE: Differences between red-foot and yellow-foots

Great Pictures! I always wondered what the major differences were. Thanks for sharing;)
 

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RE: Differences between red-foot and yellow-foots

What about husbandry differences and personality differences? Can they coexist?
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I keep mine exactly like I keep my red-foots. They do really prefer a darker, moister, climate, but they do just fine with my red-foots. They are definitely not as outgoing as a red-foot, but if you're lucky you will find one that has been a long term captive and acclimated to people. All of my yellow-foots come out and greet me when I feed them, or if they see me walk by. They coexist very well together if given a good amount of space to get away from each other. Males can be a little pushy sometimes. Overall they do great together. I hope this helps.

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what about size?
 

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The largest redfoot ever recorded was around 18". Largest yellowfoot was 28". I think redfoots get to around 12-14" and yellowfoots around 14-18" generally.
 

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matt41gb said:
I keep mine exactly like I keep my red-foots. They do really prefer a darker, moister, climate, but they do just fine with my red-foots. They are definitely not as outgoing as a red-foot, but if you're lucky you will find one that has been a long term captive and acclimated to people. All of my yellow-foots come out and greet me when I feed them, or if they see me walk by. They coexist very well together if given a good amount of space to get away from each other. Males can be a little pushy sometimes. Overall they do great together. I hope this helps.

-Matt

Right on. Yellowfoots are the true "rainforest" tortoises. I find that yellowfoots are more "shy" and laid back than red foots, but of course personality varies. And unlike other torts, redfoots and yellowfoots are fine tankmates.
 

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They are so cute even when they are huge :D~
 

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Ok stupid question time, I am allowed one a day. Aren't red foots red on their legs and yellow foots yellow on their legs?
 

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Ok stupid question time, I am allowed one a day. Aren't red foots red on their legs and yellow foots yellow on their legs?

Yellow-foots almost always have a yellow scalation on their legs. Red-foots tend to vary. I have some that are all yellow, some that are yellow and red, and some that are all red.

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I find some personality differences. With my groups I can not keep two Yellow males together. They fight pretty agressively over the 3 girls. I've witnessed locked on neck biting. I have to keep them separate.

I have several male Redfoots together and aside from a little bumping here and there they do fine with lots of females between them.

Definitley differences in protein preferences too. Still working on what the Yellows like the best.

Reds follow me around like puppy dogs. They make it difficult to do anything in their outside enclosure because they are all over me when I'm in there. The Yellows don't do that. :)
 

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i thought I had seen something before about the one vs two nose scales..... I came home from a local pet shop today and they had a "red-foot" tort with 2 scales side by side on the front/top of the nose.... I thought it seemed wierd and when I looked on TFO for the correct info i see my inclination was right! thank you for this informative note.. I will be going back to that shop just to let them know what they have ha ha!
 

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when keeping red foot and yellow foots together do they cross breed? If so I don't think I have ever seen a picture of a hatchling of a cross between the two.
 

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well i guess my red foot is really a yellow foot then. she has two scales on her nose. those pet store people told me wrong i guess.
thanks for sharing
 

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Great thread Matty-my-boy, very good info.

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Thanks sir! It hadn't been done yet, so I thought I'd take the initiative.

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RE: Differences between red-foot and yellow-foots

No, Tanja: Your little RF only has one yellow circle directly over her nose. The two you're looking at are a little further back from the one.
 

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emysemys said:
No, Tanja: Your little RF only has one yellow circle directly over her nose. The two you're looking at are a little further back from the one.

lol, thank you.
it wouldnt matter either way.
but its good to know,
 

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Yeah I started to rethink it a little, since Calypso has zero red on her, but the scales on her head give it away. She's definitely a red. =]
 

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The scalation does tend to differ between the two species (one prefrontal on redfoots, two prefrontals on yellowfoots). My redfoot had only one, true to her type. However, every once in a while you do see a redfoot with two prefrontal scales.
 
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