Most everything I know about tortoises I learned on TFO. Maybe you can help me with my wife and daughters dogs. I did not want dogs. We got two dogs from a friend, Australian shepherds. 3years old. The problem Kota barks continually when out side in their dog run. Dog run 40ft by 20ft. They get walks, runs, bike rides, play fetch, Frisbee. We keep them going. Back to the dog run, they can't have free unsupervised access to the yard because of the multiple low walled tortoise pens. We let them roam when we are out there too. Every thing I read about controlling barking requires the correction to be done right as the barking happens. The dog run is 60 yards from the back door of the house. Kota stops barking as soon as some one is in the yard. So he is not barking when you get to him. So how would I correct or do any training about barking when he has been quite for two whole minutes. He is only barking to get us back out side. Separation issues? So when we go out to correct the barking we just rewarded him for barking. We are trying to only go out side when he is quiet. Only reward him when he is not barking. Any ideas on how to work on his barking when we are inside the house? Sonic bark controller and shock collar are mostly ineffective, he is to smart. Kiki the other dog is so good and obedient. What if we went out when he was barking and gave Kiki treats and attention for being quiet, would he be able to understand why she was being rewarded, and follow suit. There are no other reasons for him to bark the whole yard has a block fenced wall. He cant see out of the yard and the neighboring houses are very quiet. He is just barking at us.