Are these male and female ?

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

I’m posting these pics on behalf of a friend. I apologise if I’ve posted in the wrong thread.
I believe that they are male and female but I’m not 100% sure so I said I’d find out for her. I’d be greatful if anyone can confirm. Thanks

 

[Yvonne G]

They look to be the same gender, however, they are different species. The one on the right is a Russian. I don't know what the other one is. They should not be kept together.

 

[Golden Greek Tortoise 567]

Could you take a pic of the left one’s shell?

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

She’s just sent me pictures of them both side views.
she was told both horse fields.

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

Bottom is salt. Top is pepper

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

Could you take a pic of the left one’s shell?

She said the lighter colour is 1-2 years old. And the darker one is around 3-4 years old. But I’m not sure. These ain’t my torts. But these are the two torts I’ve been trying to help with

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

She’s just sent these

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

They look to be the same gender, however, they are different species. The one on the right is a Russian. I don't know what the other one is. They should not be kept together.

Which one is deffo a horse field? Lighter one or darker? The pics don’t show as side by side for me. They one above the other

 

[Golden Greek Tortoise 567]

They are both Russians, the plastron of one doesn’t look like it though

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

They are both Russians, the plastron of one doesn’t look like it though

Any ideas on there ages?

 

[Yvonne G]

They're both russians, I was mistaken. The one on the left is a lot younger, and it may be too young to sex.

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

They're both russians, I was mistaken. The one on the left is a lot younger, and it may be too young to sex.

Ok thank you. I’ll let her know

 

[Tom]

I think they are both still immature. It will be a while longer before the sexes become apparent.

Regardless of sexes, they need to be living in separate enclosures. Tortoises should never live in pairs. Russians are probably THE worst about this. Very scrappy little beasts, they are.

 

[MichaelL]

They both look male to me.

 

[Toddrickfl1]

They both look male to me.

Agree, young males.

 

[Markw84]

I also agree - both males. With Testudo species (including agrionemys) I think it is a bit easier to tell earlier than other Genus. The males have that lengthwise slit look to the tail/cloaca.

 

[Mystic_Queen (Llaria)]

I think they are both still immature. It will be a while longer before the sexes become apparent.

Regardless of sexes, they need to be living in separate enclosures. Tortoises should never live in pairs. Russians are probably THE worst about this. Very scrappy little beasts, they are.

They are separate now.
she had them together at first. And I told her that’s a big no no. Explained several times they need there own enclosure and there own space Or they will start fighting.
luckily she has listened to me. well kind of