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ginge

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Hi every1 I recently looked to purchase a horsefield tort to keep in the same viv as my Herman tort I have.I was advised against this but wasn't given any reason why I shouldn't do this.I hav a friend that has a large red foot tort and a Herman in the same viv and she has no problems with them together.I would be very grateful for any info as to y I shouldnt jeep to breeds together.many thanks
 

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I would suggest your friend separate them they have different dietary needs from each other. Tortoises as a rule are solitary especially russians. They tend not to do well with others especially in indoor enclosures. Tortoises view each others as competition for food and basking spots. They tend to get together only to mate and or fight. You could probably keep 2 different species together with no problems, but I tendoto look how the tortoise feels about other tortoises.
 

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How big of a vivarium are you talking about, and what are your reasons for wanting to keep them together?
 

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Russians and red foots have very different care requirements in feed, humidity and temps. If you get it right for one, it will be all wrong for the other which will lead to illness.

Generally species should not be mixed as they carry different pathogens. What one tolerates may prove fatal to another.

Most species of tortoise are solitary in the wild and do not share territory and food nicely, particularly as they get older. The ensuing fighting can lead to blood being drawn and the losing tortoise becomes withdrawn and ill and could die. This happens regardless of gender.

Testudo (Greeks, Russians, Hermanns, Marginated) are particularly bad at this with Russians being the nastiest fighters.

So different species shouldn't share and, if you have two tortoises, you must accept that sharing may well not be a permanent arrangement.

A new tortoise must be kept entirely separately in quarantine from yours for at least 6 months in any case.
 

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Your friend with the redfoot and hermann in the same viv is caring for a time bomb. Eventually one or the other of them is going to start to show symptoms of poor/wrong care. The redfoot requires it to be humid, while the Russian requires a dry habitat.

If the two actually were "breeds" that would mean they were the same species, however, different tortoises are not breeds, they are totally different SPECIES from each other. And its never a good idea to mix species.

Regardless of what WE want to do, I think Captain Awesome said it best...do what the tortoise wants. In the words of famous Greta Garbo, "I vant to be alone!"
 

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Iv been wanting anotha tort for a while as company for Herman I have already.the places round my area are asking silly money for a hermans tort.
 

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Your Tortoise does not get lonely in the same sense of meaning as our species uses that word....a tortoise can and does live a content...healthy life as an only tort...:D
 

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Everyday shelby paces up and down his viv backwards and forwards as if he's trying to dig his way out.
 

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What size viv do you have him in? He may be pacing, etc because it is too small for him. Give us some more info on your viv set up and the size of your tort. It could explain a lot.
 

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wellington said:
What size viv do you have him in? He may be pacing, etc because it is too small for him. Give us some more info on your viv set up and the size of your tort. It could explain a lot.

Shelbys viv is 4ft x 2 ft he has a 150 watt komodo heat lamp and a 4ft repti glo uv lite.hope this helps.
 

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2x4 feet really isn't big enough for a single adult tortoise, even for a small species like a Hermann's. It definitely isn't big enough for two tortoises of any size (except maybe hatchlings). As others have said, your tortoise doesn't really need companionship. If you simply want to have more tortoises (nothing wrong with that) then you'll need to provide more space so that they have room to wander in their own separate enclosures.
 

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ginge said:
wellington said:
What size viv do you have him in? He may be pacing, etc because it is too small for him. Give us some more info on your viv set up and the size of your tort. It could explain a lot.

Shelbys viv is 4ft x 2 ft he has a 150 watt komodo heat lamp and a 4ft repti glo uv lite.hope this helps.

For a solitary Hermann's, I'd like to suggest 6' X 4' for an indoor enclosure, and 8' X6' outside, minimally....really, you can't give a tortoise too much room.

And, mixing species, even two as close as a Hermann's and a Russian, is risky...
 
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