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    As Christmas Tree decorations go...

    Merry Christmas !
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    Turtles and Tortoises Illustrations

    My wife found this set a couple of weeks ago - was left outside a house a few days ago on her route to work - we were struck by how it seems like fate. Must admit the other two (only partly seen, sorry) are growing on me as well after some initial resistance.. luckily we don't have space for 3...
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    A Thread For Your Pictures of Split or Extra scutes

    Reviving this thread to encourage any other new entrants. This is Oogy aged 1, a Western Hermann's with crazy paving on his back. (ignore the red rectangle) He also has a small extra scute at the front which is where he keeps his phone.
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    So, after consulting that thread further it seems Oogy joins a long, handsome & honourable list of those with extra and/or split scutes. He's the tortoise with Crazy Paving on his back. Plus, of course, he might turn out to be a she.
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Thanks!! That's a great thread, completely up my street. I've only managed to check out the first page so far and it's been the best. Thanks :) @MenagerieGrl, absolutely agree, & thanks for your kind message. @Yvonne G ...Zipper is a stunning tortoise! Wow.
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Cheers Tom, and have a great weekend. Penny finally dropped for me when Zovick clarified that issue. The general silence from others appeared to possibly signify something possibly ominous! - its typical i would imagine the worst. I will need to return to the lighting details after Monday...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    I am so sorry for my seeming impatience (not the case) to be honest I was mainly adding (better) photos thinking they would be viewed at once by other people whenever they chose to dip in here. I wasn't demanding attention but as you'll have noted my query was a bit clumsily worded. Equally - I...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Small chance, but if anyone else reading has a Western Hermann's roughly 1 year old and also uses a recent iPhone and can try and take a well -lit, close up comparative photo of their tortoise's scutes i am concerned the fact camera is alongside seems to (to me) slightly exaggerate the ridging...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Zovick thanks very much for reply as it has completely put my mind at ease about my primary reason for posting this thread which seems to be poorly titled and maybe explained by myself. So it appears the smaller, irregular and differently shaped scutes are just 'one of those things'. I'm glad...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    I've had my wife carefully take a closeup picture just now from behind which finally shows, much more accurately, how the basic layout/ positioning of the scutes makes little visual sense, towards the rear area. Q: Is our tortoise a, for want of a better word, freak? Again to emphasise i am...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Every couple of days. Wondering what people are seeing here. I will say the iPhone X i got recently , used close up, makes the carapace ridges appear quite pronounced and i'm wondering if that's what is concerning people - my questions so far have related primarily to the layout, and shape of...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    I've drawn attention to the irregularity at the rear already, but these 2 pix (zoomed in from 2 photos above) have a red outline around a small panel at the front which frankly doesn't make sense being there. Or - please tell me, as I am only starting out on this journey - am i imagining this...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Apologies for photo overkill i am just trying to illustrate Oogy's carapace shape as well as possible.
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Just noticed the date of that 'pen' photo: 14 May. I thought we had got him in early April. :rolleyes: For further reference here are 2 pix i snapped quickly this morning from side profile:
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    This photo is from the very first day after we received him, using the pen for scale because we were marvelling at how tiny he was.
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Managed to find a photo of the enclosure as it was right from the start, (always likely to be a bit embarrassing, it has been through several iterations since then in terms of foliage, items of interest, so please don't judge this too harshly! Also, the light was only at the Hide end right at...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    I'm stuck at work today but can't focus at all because this does worry me, especially with the absence of any replies saying "well sometimes the carapace isn't symmetrical and that is just how it is" . I haven't studied 1000s of photos of other tortoises, but probably seen photos of a hundred or...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Hi Tom, thanks for your reply I will provide full details as soon as I get some time off...very busy weekend working so it may need to wait till Monday. Your reply concerned me a little this morning, so I quickly double checked old photos and film from earlier this year and it is definitely the...
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    Carapace irregular in places - Western Hermann's

    Hi there thanks for any comments in advance. I've always noticed that our Oogy's carapace isn't quite symmetrical, or as I would expect, in 1-2 places.... while it has never concerned us, I thought I should seek some opinions on whether there are any health issues relating to the visible...
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    Hi there people. Western Hermann wants to say hello.

    Another Oogy was here previously, very handsome he is too https://www.tortoiseforum.org/media/carapace-shot-oogy.3955/
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