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Aloysius Taschse

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Alright guys, lets all just calm down as I've said before. FranklinTheTortoise, I don't think anybody was trying to be rude to you. This conversation is going nowhere and I think you have all the info you need. Also, definitely listen to a 74 year old. These people are the best tort keepers I know along with all the amazing TFO members. Anyways, lets all just stop arguing on this and go our separate ways.
 

Aloysius Taschse

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I don't think anyone was trying to be offensive, so even though you might be pretty mad, this is going nowhere so we should all just stop and go our separate ways.
 

zovick

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You didn't do 48 hours of research though did you? I doubt I should be listening to a 74 year old anyway.
No, I didn't, BUT I have kept tortoises continuously for over 60 years which is a reasonably good substitute for your 48 hours. Check this out and good luck to you.

DR. WILLIAM H. ZOVICKIAN
DOB: 13 Feb. 46
USFWS CAPTIVE - BRED WILDLIFE PERMIT PRT-721023
Expiration Date: 28 January 2019
EDUCATION
Boston University, 1964 - 1967. Major field: Biology
University of Maryland, Baltimore College of Dental Surgery, DDS Degree, 1971

HERPETOLOGICAL AFFILIATIONS
Field Associate in Herpetology, New York Zoological Society, 1977 - 2007
AZA Member, 1977 - 2011
Herpetological Atlaser, NY State Dept. of Environmental Conservation.
Advisor to CT Dept. of Environmental Protection on Bog Turtle ecology.
Advisor, Radiated Tortoise SSP Propagation Group.
Member, Tortoise and Freshwater Turtle Specialist Group, IUCN Species
Survival Commission.
Field Associate in Herpetology, Trevor Zoo, 2016 - present
Director of Husbandry, Ploughshare Project, 2016 - present

EXPERIENCE
July 1971 - July 1973. Captain, U.S. Army Dental Corps
July 1973 - Present. Private Practice of General Dentistry, Sharon, CT
June 2001 - November 2007. Owner, Allegra Print & Imaging, Norcross, GA

PERTINENT HERPETOLOGICAL BACKGROUND
Continuously maintained personal chelonian collection since 1953.
Became interested in conservation of Malagasy tortoises, 1963.
Hatched first captive - bred Astrochelys radiata in North America, 1972 (from
animals obtained as 5” specimens in 1965).
Petitioned NYZS to consider formation of cooperative A. radiata propagation
program, 1973.
Exchanged A. radiata specimens with NYZS to improve sex ratios in CT and FL
herds, 1974.
Met with John L. Behler and Dr. Walter Auffenberg in FL to brainstorm ideas for
A. radiata husbandry in NYZS herd maintained by Dr. Auffenberg, 1975.
Provided input for design of tortoise facility at St. Catherine’s Island prior to
construction, 1975 -1977. Subsequently advised keepers there
on husbandry techniques for A. radiata, A. yniphora, G. platynota, and P.
planicauda.

Legally imported 1.0 A. yniphora, 1.2 P. planicauda, and 3.3 P. arachnoides,
1976.
Successfully bred P. planicauda, 1977,1978, and 2002.
Successfully bred all Pyxis species and subspecies, 2001-2004.
Initiated efforts to establish cooperative A. yniphora propagation program in CT,
1977.
Obtained additional A. yniphora from San Antonio Zoo and James Juvik, 1977 -
1979.
Sent all A. yniphora founder animals to St. Catherine’s Island, 1981, in hopes
that it would be easier to obtain additional specimens for propagation
program from that venue.
Founding member and participant in Radiated Tortoise Species Survival Plan,
Owned five founder animals and several SSP offspring.
Received twelve G. elegans from USFWS confiscation to be maintained in
Sharon, CT as NYZS specimens in Star Tortoise Species Survival Plan,
Hatched 102 SSP offspring from this group, 1995 - 2000.
Constructed and personally funded new, state of the art indoor and outdoor
facilities for tortoises, 1993 . During construction, was visited by and
received valuable advice from John L. Behler, Rene Honegger, Brett
Stearns, William Holmstrom, and Bonnie Raphael, DVM (WCS).
Bred first 100% F2 captive born A. radiata offspring in North America, 1995.
Since then, have hatched 40+ additional F2 babies from 4 different dams.
Bred first personal 100% F3 captive born A. radiata, 2016. Only breeder known
to have bred and hatched F1, F2, and F3 CB generations of this species.
Bred first 100% F2 captive born Sri Lankan Star Tortoises in North America,
1998.
Bred first 100% F3 captive born Sri Lankan Star Tortoises in North America,
2010.
Traveled to Myanmar (Burma) at the invitation of their government as part of a
three man advisory team from Bronx Zoo (WCS) to assist them in
formulation of a comprehensive conservation plan for their many species
of rare and endangered reptiles, 1999.
Bred and hatched first captive-bred Burmese Star Tortoises (G. platynota) in
North America, 2000. Since then, have hatched 138 total offspring and
initiated both a Species Survival Plan and a Studbook for these animals
in North America.

SUMMARY
For sixty-seven years, I have endeavored to do that which has been in the best interest of all animals, making many of my rare specimens available to those institutions likely to have success in breeding them. Conversely, in recognition of my efforts, many rare animals have been made available to me, for which I have been very grateful. While I recognize and appreciate the progress which has been made in chelonian conservation and husbandry in the recent past, I also realize that numerous problems exist worldwide, and that the animals will forever need our help to avoid extinction.
 
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FrankIinTheTortoise

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No, I didn't, BUT I have kept tortoises continuously for over 60 years which is a reasonably good substitute for your 48 hours. Check this out and good luck to you.

DR. WILLIAM H. ZOVICKIAN
DOB: 13 Feb. 46
USFWS CAPTIVE - BRED WILDLIFE PERMIT PRT-721023
Expiration Date: 28 January 2019
EDUCATION
Boston University, 1964 - 1967. Major field: Biology
University of Maryland, Baltimore College of Dental Surgery, DDS Degree, 1971

HERPETOLOGICAL AFFILIATIONS
Field Associate in Herpetology, New York Zoological Society, 1977 - 2007
AZA Member, 1977 - 2011
Herpetological Atlaser, NY State Dept. of Environmental Conservation.
Advisor to CT Dept. of Environmental Protection on Bog Turtle ecology.
Advisor, Radiated Tortoise SSP Propagation Group.
Member, Tortoise and Freshwater Turtle Specialist Group, IUCN Species
Survival Commission.
Field Associate in Herpetology, Trevor Zoo, 2016 - present
Director of Husbandry, Ploughshare Project, 2016 - present

EXPERIENCE
July 1971 - July 1973. Captain, U.S. Army Dental Corps
July 1973 - Present. Private Practice of General Dentistry, Sharon, CT
June 2001 - November 2007. Owner, Allegra Print & Imaging, Norcross, GA

PERTINENT HERPETOLOGICAL BACKGROUND
Continuously maintained personal chelonian collection since 1953.
Became interested in conservation of Malagasy tortoises, 1963.
Hatched first captive - bred Astrochelys radiata in North America, 1972 (from
animals obtained as 5” specimens in 1965).
Petitioned NYZS to consider formation of cooperative A. radiata propagation
program, 1973.
Exchanged A. radiata specimens with NYZS to improve sex ratios in CT and FL
herds, 1974.
Met with John L. Behler and Dr. Walter Auffenberg in FL to brainstorm ideas for
A. radiata husbandry in NYZS herd maintained by Dr. Auffenberg, 1975.
Provided input for design of tortoise facility at St. Catherine’s Island prior to
construction, 1975 -1977. Subsequently advised keepers there
on husbandry techniques for A. radiata, A. yniphora, G. platynota, and P.
planicauda.

Legally imported 1.0 A. yniphora, 1.2 P. planicauda, and 3.3 P. arachnoides,
1976.
Successfully bred P. planicauda, 1977,1978, and 2002.
Successfully bred all Pyxis species and subspecies, 2001-2004.
Initiated efforts to establish cooperative A. yniphora propagation program in CT,
1977.
Obtained additional A. yniphora from San Antonio Zoo and James Juvik, 1977 -
1979.
Sent all A. yniphora founder animals to St. Catherine’s Island, 1981, in hopes
that it would be easier to obtain additional specimens for propagation
program from that venue.
Founding member and participant in Radiated Tortoise Species Survival Plan,
Owned five founder animals and several SSP offspring.
Received twelve G. elegans from USFWS confiscation to be maintained in
Sharon, CT as NYZS specimens in Star Tortoise Species Survival Plan,
Hatched 102 SSP offspring from this group, 1995 - 2000.
Constructed and personally funded new, state of the art indoor and outdoor
facilities for tortoises, 1993 . During construction, was visited by and
received valuable advice from John L. Behler, Rene Honegger, Brett
Stearns, William Holmstrom, and Bonnie Raphael, DVM (WCS).
Bred first 100% F2 captive born A. radiata offspring in North America, 1995.
Since then, have hatched 40+ additional F2 babies from 4 different dams.
Bred first personal 100% F3 captive born A. radiata, 2016. Only breeder known
to have bred and hatched F1, F2, and F3 CB generations of this species.
Bred first 100% F2 captive born Sri Lankan Star Tortoises in North America,
1998.
Bred first 100% F3 captive born Sri Lankan Star Tortoises in North America,
2010.
Traveled to Myanmar (Burma) at the invitation of their government as part of a
three man advisory team from Bronx Zoo (WCS) to assist them in
formulation of a comprehensive conservation plan for their many species
of rare and endangered reptiles, 1999.
Bred and hatched first captive-bred Burmese Star Tortoises (G. platynota) in
North America, 2000. Since then, have hatched 138 total offspring and
initiated both a Species Survival Plan and a Studbook for these animals
in North America.

SUMMARY
For sixty-seven years, I have endeavored to do that which has been in the best interest of all animals, making many of my rare specimens available to those institutions likely to have success in breeding them. Conversely, in recognition of my efforts, many rare animals have been made available to me, for which I have been very grateful. While I recognize and appreciate the progress which has been made in chelonian conservation and husbandry in the recent past, I also realize that numerous problems exist worldwide, and that the animals will forever need our help to avoid extinction.

Respect+ I'm sorry if I might had been rude to you sir. I look up to you now. Funny how my birthday is February 10th and yours is the 13th.
 

Diane Berner

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He's still young. He's 4 inches. An adult russian tortoise is 8 inches. He's half the size of an adult RT. I doubt a RT from my local Petsmart is wildly caught. For the dual lamp fixture, I'll place one UVA bulb and one Heat bulb so the lamp fixture gives off both UVA and Heat. You're acting like I don't read reviews before purchasing a 100 dollar product. I read the reviews for every thing I got for Franklin. What do you mean by CHE? I'm not sure what led you to assume Franklins an adult but I can say one thing, stop assuming things.
I work at Petsmart. All the Russian tortoises we sell are wild caught and take a lot of time to adjust to living in a habitat.
 

FrankIinTheTortoise

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I work at Petsmart. All the Russian tortoises we sell are wild caught and take a lot of time to adjust to living in a habitat.
That explains why Franklin hasn't ate since I got him 4 days ago. Could you give me an estimate of how long it will take for Franklin to eat and get used to living in his new habitat?
 
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zovick

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That explains why Franklin hasn't ate since I got him 4 days ago. Could you give me an estimate of how long it will take for Franklin to eat and get used to living in his new habitat?
It could take a couple of weeks or more before the tortoise decides to eat. Meanwhile, just keep him at about 85 degrees in the daytime and 75 degrees at night and soak him daily for about 20 minutes or so in lukewarm water to keep him hydrated. After soaking him, put him in front of a pile of food and sooner or later he will begin to eat. Try tempting him with some bits of tomato or some radicchio to see if those interest him.
 

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