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CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

JoesMum said:
Things have gone pear-shaped for my kids. Their flight has been cancelled. The airline has put them on a flight from Milan tomorrow. At the moment they’re still kicking round the airport waiting for transport to overnight accommodation arranged by the airline.

Fortunately, under European Union Law, their accommodation and food bills will be picked up and they get compensation. It doesn’t solve the problem that both are supposed to be back at work tomorrow though.

Oh dear. I am sure their work will understand. They do have an excuse.

CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

Cathie G said:
It's 79°f here but feels chilly because it's overcast here too. But I've had Saphire out for about 3 hours anyway. He still wasn't hiding in his hut last time I checked. It's supposed to rain this evening and tomorrow so I really wanted him to be outside today. Summer is taking forever to arrive.

This morning it is 7c. Brrrrrrrr

CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

Cathie G said:
I don't believe in verbal beating either. Neither is an answer to helping little people understand their behavior is obnoxious. One day, I became so fed up that I told my 4 and 5 year old boys that I wanted to play a new game with them. I would be the baby and they would be the mommy and they agreed to play. After I laid on the floor and threw little fits demanding this that and the other, I started seeing a sheepish smile in both boys eyes. I then rested my case...

[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] That is certainly one way to do it. When my boys were very young they got hidings. When they were old enough to miss something they then had their favorite toy or whatever it was that they really wanted, taken away from them.

CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

KarenSoCal said:
Wow! When I was in first grade the teacher, a woman, put a classmate across a chair and "spanked" him with a paddle. He had pooped in his pants more times than she would tolerate.

This was done in front of the entire class, whose desks were in a "U". He was put in the center of the "U" and beaten.

Even though I was only 6, I've never forgotten the shame and humiliation on his face. I think he had autism, but no one knew about that then.

I even remember his name. [emoji26]

Oh shame.

CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

KarenSoCal said:
Yes, that's true.

But at least here in the states it seems we have once again swung the pendulum too far the other way.

I am not involved in teaching or schools...heck, I've never even had any children. But I do know that discipline has all but disappeared in homes and schools. Bad behavior in school is a natural progression from bad behavior at home. It seems to me that kids run rampant these days, and many parents don't care about where their child is, what he's doing, or who his friends are.

Just go to Walmart and watch...parents have no control over their smart-mouthed, backtalking, screaming children.

I really do think that discipline is a very important part of bringing up children, the problem is parents either don't exercise enough of it or go too far.

CarolM · Jun 12, 2019

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JoesMum · Jun 12, 2019

Ray--Opo said:
Hello everyone, went to the doctors today to see the results of the CT scan on my right lung. The person who read the CT says I have pulmonary fibrosis. My doctor thinks it is scarring from the 2 punctures and drain tube that was in my lung from the accident. So another CT scan and appointment in 3 months and then maybe scope my lung if there are still questions.
So I could have stayed in my hole for another 3 months or get back to some type of a life.
Thank you all for your kind words.

Hello Ray. Poor you

We are all rooting for you in the CDR. I hope you are able to move forward soon.

JoesMum · Jun 12, 2019

Good mornooning everyone. My offspring are crammed in a 7 seater taxi heading for Milan. It doesn’t sound comfortable particularly for 6’6” son. Hopefully they’ll be there in around three hours.

KarenSoCal · Jun 13, 2019

JoesMum said:
Good mornooning everyone. My offspring are crammed in a 7 seater taxi heading for Milan. It doesn’t sound comfortable particularly for 6’6” son. Hopefully they’ll be there in around three hours.

What an awful way to finish up a trip that looks like it was perfect!

BTW, I love that your son and daughter travel together. With so many problems in families, it's refreshing to hear about one that isn't at war with each other.

Yvonne G · Jun 13, 2019

KarenSoCal said:
Yes, that's true.

But at least here in the states it seems we have once again swung the pendulum too far the other way.

I am not involved in teaching or schools...heck, I've never even had any children. But I do know that discipline has all but disappeared in homes and schools. Bad behavior in school is a natural progression from bad behavior at home. It seems to me that kids run rampant these days, and many parents don't care about where their child is, what he's doing, or who his friends are.

Just go to Walmart and watch...parents have no control over their smart-mouthed, backtalking, screaming children.

And this telescopes to no respect for other people or other people's property.

Yvonne G · Jun 13, 2019

CarolM said:
[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] That is certainly one way to do it. When my boys were very young they got hidings. When they were old enough to miss something they then had their favorite toy or whatever it was that they really wanted, taken away from them.

Many, many, MANY years ago, my kids got an open palm smack on their bottom when they mis-behaved.

JoesMum · Jun 13, 2019

Good news. My offspring finally landed in the UK about an hour ago and are now making their way to their respective homes. It is a shame there was such a chaotic end to such a lovely holiday. At least they have time to organise themselves before returning to work tomorrow.

And I went to my yoga class for the first time since my knee and leg went black and blue. It was good to be able to move with reasonable ease again

EllieMay · Jun 13, 2019

Ray--Opo said:
Hello everyone, went to the doctors today to see the results of the CT scan on my right lung. The person who read the CT says I have pulmonary fibrosis. My doctor thinks it is scarring from the 2 punctures and drain tube that was in my lung from the accident. So another CT scan and appointment in 3 months and then maybe scope my lung if there are still questions.
So I could have stayed in my hole for another 3 months or get back to some type of a life.
Thank you all for your kind words.

Glad you popped in! God is with you Ray and we are too! How is Opo handling all this?? [emoji6]

EllieMay · Jun 13, 2019

Yvonne G said:
Many, many, MANY years ago, my kids got an open palm smack on their bottom when they mis-behaved.

And mine still do

) but they know they are loved and it reflects in their behavior to others!

EllieMay · Jun 13, 2019

JoesMum said:
Good news. My offspring finally landed in the UK about an hour ago and are now making their way to their respective homes. It is a shame there was such a chaotic end to such a lovely holiday. At least they have time to organise themselves before returning to work tomorrow.

And I went to my yoga class for the first time since my knee and leg went black and blue. It was good to be able to move with reasonable ease again

That is all good! They had lovely travels so the hectic end was probably worth it. Glad your back on track physically too!

Ray--Opo · Jun 13, 2019

Yvonne G said:
Sheesh, Ray. It's never ending. I hope you're going to "get back to some type of a life." I've enjoyed your posts.

Thanks Yvonne, it is getting overwhelming.
I have been reading the emails that TFO sends. There was a thread you had posted about rescues you have had with deformed shells. That night I had a dream that I came across a bunch of tortoises with deformed shells. I picked one up and it tried to bite me and then turned into a snake. Then I kept finding torts under the snow. That's all I remember. LOL

Ray--Opo · Jun 13, 2019

JoesMum said:
Hello Ray. Poor you We are all rooting for you in the CDR. I hope you are able to move forward soon.

Thank you, that is my goal to get back the fight I had after the accident. I missed the TFO members but decided to get back here. I was hoping for a more definitive diagnosis but have confidence with what my doctor thinks. 3 more months I should have a better diagnosis.

Ben02 · Jun 13, 2019

Selma had a calcium craving today. It’s a shame the weathers not great today to get the maximum benefit of all that calcium. :tort:

Torts have been a great help to me through my exams. They really chill me out when I’m worried........ except when they are the source of the anxiety *cough* Marge *cough*

Kristoff · Jun 13, 2019

JoesMum said:
Welcome to the UK That pretty much describes our summer so far... at least when it isn’t raining!

I blame the Cricket World Cup. Cricket has a legendary ability to generate bad weather here and hosting a tournament as big as this was bound to ensure we didn’t get a heatwave like last summer [emoji23]

Good mornooning everyone!

Tell me about it! When we had the cricket tournament here, it was awful weather. A scorching 23C /73F! My face burned! [emoji23]

Cathie G · Jun 13, 2019

Ray--Opo said:
Hello everyone, went to the doctors today to see the results of the CT scan on my right lung. The person who read the CT says I have pulmonary fibrosis. My doctor thinks it is scarring from the 2 punctures and drain tube that was in my lung from the accident. So another CT scan and appointment in 3 months and then maybe scope my lung if there are still questions.
So I could have stayed in my hole for another 3 months or get back to some type of a life.
Thank you all for your kind words.

I've been thinking of you, Rose, and Opo and I'm sooo glad to see you posting again. Keep being a tortoise...

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