Tortoise won't eat

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Hello again everyone. I'm sure there's a handful of threads regarding the topic, but when I browse those they never seem to have the same exact issue I am having, so I feel more comfortable when I post my issues instead.

Recently my tortoise was severely constipated due to lack of calcium and compounded grass in her system. We took her to the vet, and after 2 visits, they gave her an enema and a vitamin D shot. Unfortunately the issues haven't stopped. The vets got most of the stool out, but there was some left that they couldn't reach, but Gamera, my Sulcata, has managed to pass one big stool, and a handful of tiny bits, though I'm unsure if she's "empty" or not. My issue now is that she refuses to eat, period. She won't eat any of her favorite foods she'd normally charge across the house for, and she won't eat anything I give her no matter what it is, be it greens, fruits, veggies, etc. On a couple of occasions, she ate a few mouthfuls of her tortoise pellets, but that was it. I've tried giving that to her since she seemed like she'd eat it, but has continued to turn it down again. I'm at a loss of what to do to stimulate her appetite. The vets gave us special calcium supplements to put in her food, but I can't obviously give it to her if she won't eat. While the vest have been helpful, their advice was nothing new or different from what I was already doing, which involved her enclosure, which when I informed them of what it was, they were happy to hear we had things just right for her, as well as soaking her, which I've been doing for hours every day in nice warm water in the tub since she was initially constipated.

So my question again is what do I do when she won't eat? Is there something I could be doing? Or do I just wait it out? She keeps hydrated by drinking the water in the tub the second I put her in, and her enclosure isn't the issue according to the vets. I'm on the brink of letting her eat some dog food, because that is the only thing she's gone out of her way to eat since this all started. The dogs will sometimes leave a few pellets lying around when they eat, and I've caught her at least 3 different times trying to eat the food. All that is in it are grains, going off of the dog food bag, and I'm not sure what else to do to get calcium into her when she won't eat anything else, and I'm trying to avoid giving her things she's not supposed to have. My only plan now is to see if she'll eat the dog food with some calcium "powder" sprinkled on it. She's left me with no other options and it's been weeks and probably a month since she's eaten an actual meal...
 

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Dont do the dog food. There is all kinds of additives in therr that will not help your torts situation. Have you tried baby food soaks? Add a jar or two of squash baby food to your warm soak water. This will help get nutrients into him. The calcium powder can wait a bit until he is eating on his own in my opinion. My guy never turns down pumpkin puree or romain lettuce when he is in a no eating phase.
 

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Extra calcium and constipation aren't a good mix.
Is your tortoise warm enough?
I ask because a tortoise can't correctly digest food unless they are about 80 degrees.
Can't digest equals can't eat.
A good UVB source should give him most of his Calcium with UVB intake.
Why did your vet want to give an injection?
 

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In response to everyone, yes she is warm enough. She is very good with taking care of herself when it comes to heat. The heat lamp we have for her includes heat and UV rays to mimic sunlight. When she's cold, she basks. When she's too warm, she'll go further into her house under her canopy we made for her for shade to cool off. Even the vets we took her to were happy about her enclosure.
 

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Extra calcium and constipation aren't a good mix.
Is your tortoise warm enough?
I ask because a tortoise can't correctly digest food unless they are about 80 degrees.
Can't digest equals can't eat.
A good UVB source should give him most of his Calcium with UVB intake.
Why did your vet want to give an injection?

It was, if I remember right, a Vitamin D+ shot. It took me and the vet and an assistant to give her the shot because she was being a stinker. It was a shot to help make up for her lack of calcium in her system. They also gave us some syringes with similar stuff to put in her food, but of course, she isn't eating and we can't give it to her.
 

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Dont do the dog food. There is all kinds of additives in therr that will not help your torts situation. Have you tried baby food soaks? Add a jar or two of squash baby food to your warm soak water. This will help get nutrients into him. The calcium powder can wait a bit until he is eating on his own in my opinion. My guy never turns down pumpkin puree or romain lettuce when he is in a no eating phase.

I've never heard of baby food soaks. We were going to try to get some apple sauce variant under the vets recommendation to encourage eating. I'll say again that the only reason, and I mean only reason I was considering the dog food was because that is the literal only food she's gone after since her vet visit, and she refuses to acknowledge any of her favorite foods, from apples to mustard greens, to zucchini to pumpkin. I don't even know why she's going after dog food when she won't touch things she'd normally inhale.

Also, she still tries to go to the bathroom sometimes, getting small chunks of stool out every so often, and I'm wondering if she's not eating still because she is still backed up. However, we can't get mineral oil or anything else into because, as I've said several times now, she won't eat, so I'm at a loss here with nothing I can do and it's driving me nuts.
 

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I've never heard of baby food soaks. We were going to try to get some apple sauce variant under the vets recommendation to encourage eating. I'll say again that the only reason, and I mean only reason I was considering the dog food was because that is the literal only food she's gone after since her vet visit, and she refuses to acknowledge any of her favorite foods, from apples to mustard greens, to zucchini to pumpkin. I don't even know why she's going after dog food when she won't touch things she'd normally inhale.

Also, she still tries to go to the bathroom sometimes, getting small chunks of stool out every so often, and I'm wondering if she's not eating still because she is still backed up. However, we can't get mineral oil or anything else into because, as I've said several times now, she won't eat, so I'm at a loss here with nothing I can do and it's driving me nuts.
I would do two things:
1. Soak your tort for 1 hour or even longer. Be sure that the water always stays warm ( 100 F ) during the long soak. If your tort gets restless in her bath let her ! The movement of the tort is good for her intestine and against the constipation.
2. Take some dog food and water it so it gets very smooth. Mix a little bit of it with greens. But no apple or any other fruit. No bell pepper or pumpkin.
Feed her gras cutted in short pieces or lambs lettuce, endive or romain lettuce. Sulcatas should not eat fruits.
 

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Lack of calcium won't cause constipation. Too much calcium will cause it. Magnesium helps loosen the bowels.
 

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I would do two things:
1. Soak your tort for 1 hour or even longer. Be sure that the water always stays warm ( 100 F ) during the long soak. If your tort gets restless in her bath let her ! The movement of the tort is good for her intestine and against the constipation.
2. Take some dog food and water it so it gets very smooth. Mix a little bit of it with greens. But no apple or any other fruit. No bell pepper or pumpkin.
Feed her gras cutted in short pieces or lambs lettuce, endive or romain lettuce. Sulcatas should not eat fruits.

I've been doing #1 since the issue started initially, so I got things covered there. Mixing in some dog food only to get her to eat things might work. And I'm aware Torts should eat fruits as treats almost never or not at all, but when she's not eating period I have to try what I can.
 

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Lack of calcium won't cause constipation. Too much calcium will cause it. Magnesium helps loosen the bowels.

See the vet said the opposite, and that she wasn't going due to lack of calcium, especially because she is female. They mentioned something about her body already gearing up to make eggs, even if I don't plan on breeding her or anything, and I had little reason to question the vet. What foods would you recommend, if I can get her to eat anything, have magnesium in them?
 

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I've been doing #1 since the issue started initially, so I got things covered there. Mixing in some dog food only to get her to eat things might work. And I'm aware Torts should eat fruits as treats almost never or not at all, but when she's not eating period I have to try what I can.
Okay, I understand.
 

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See the vet said the opposite, and that she wasn't going due to lack of calcium, especially because she is female. They mentioned something about her body already gearing up to make eggs, even if I don't plan on breeding her or anything, and I had little reason to question the vet. What foods would you recommend, if I can get her to eat anything, have magnesium in them?
How old is she and how much does she weight ? I don`t understand the opinion of the VET about eggs. What have eggs to do with constipation ? Sounds unlogical for me.
Bananas have magnesium. I know ... fruits ..... but when she wants to eat a banana it will not be bad because bananas could cause diarrhea.
 

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See the vet said the opposite, and that she wasn't going due to lack of calcium, especially because she is female. They mentioned something about her body already gearing up to make eggs, even if I don't plan on breeding her or anything, and I had little reason to question the vet. What foods would you recommend, if I can get her to eat anything, have magnesium in them?
They need calcium to make eggs, but that is unrelated to the constipation. I would follow the other suggestions like cucumber, aloe, cactus, that work as laxatives. For the short term, I would discontinue any calcium supplements until you get the constipation resolved.
 

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I don't know where your located at, but if you have sticky weeds (goose grass) they give my tort diarrhea- very laxative plant
 

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Extra calcium and constipation aren't a good mix.
Is your tortoise warm enough?
I ask because a tortoise can't correctly digest food unless they are about 80 degrees.
Can't digest equals can't eat.
A good UVB source should give him most of his Calcium with UVB intake.
Why did your vet want to give an injection?
How can you tell if your tortoise is warm enough. And how many watts should the UVB be?
 

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I know you said you soak her, but please understand, I'm telling you this because it works:

Clean and rinse your people bathtub real well. Add enough water to come up to the middle of the tortoise's sides. Position a light over the tub so it stays warm. You can even set a small heater in the bathroom to make sure it stays warm in there. Then just leave the tortoise in your bath tub for an hour or more. When she scrambles around in the tub, trying to get out, this causes the poop to loosen up and come out. I promise - if you leave the tortoise in your tub, scrambling around, for a LONG time, she will poop.
 

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I know you said you soak her, but please understand, I'm telling you this because it works:

Clean and rinse your people bathtub real well. Add enough water to come up to the middle of the tortoise's sides. Position a light over the tub so it stays warm. You can even set a small heater in the bathroom to make sure it stays warm in there. Then just leave the tortoise in your bath tub for an hour or more. When she scrambles around in the tub, trying to get out, this causes the poop to loosen up and come out. I promise - if you leave the tortoise in your tub, scrambling around, for a LONG time, she will poop.
What is this tip for? Constipation?
 
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