I am a breeder with 30+ years experience with Testudo species and currently have a group of 2.4 Egyptians. I do not live close (New York State) but can send you a box all ready to ship with instructions. I've done with people several times with 100% success. I can answer any questions that you would like about my enclosures, animals and experience. If you are interested please email me direct at [email protected]