This deadly heat ?

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Razberri does zoomies but I had to watch the videos to now call what she does a zoomie. She usually does it when she's up to no durn good and I won't let her get by with it. Then she does rabbit ricochets off the walls and runs figure eights around me... basically telling me I ain't the boss! She is?
 

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I have just one comment...'dog people' often forget there are some very almost rational human people who don't much care for dogs in her...I mean their old age. When an untrained or socialized dog is taken in a public place it can be disruptive and scary.
And their owners make the damn dog more important than anyone else around.
 

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I have just one comment...'dog people' often forget there are some very almost rational human people who don't much care for dogs in her...I mean their old age. When an untrained or socialized dog is taken in a public place it can be disruptive and scary.
And their owners make the damn dog more important than anyone else around.
I've seen that when a pit bull chased my brother through our yard right up to the front door. The dog wasn't on a leash. When I told off the owner he said she won't hurt you ? so I told the dog to go home. The dog went flying home with the owner trying to catch up ?? Then I called the dog catcher. Yes some people are really dumb about their dogs. If the dog isn't really well trained and on a leash, the owner is being abusive to the dog and people that come in contact with them.
 

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The dogs and puppies lost to heat in a vehicle I spoke of earlier were also professional. Professional dog handlers for show dogs. Their Van's were set up to purposely be able to leave dogs/puppies in the van while not being shown at the moment. The vehicle/AC failed. Stuff like this can happen to anyone. Anyone except those who never leaves a dog in a vehicle alone.
the number and frequency of cop K9 dogs that have died in cop cars would surprise most folks ......... i knew a guy paid a service to deliver a dog , a dedicated business that moved dogs by ground in climate controlled vans ........ to move a dog from the east coast to california , paid 20 grand for the dog , couldn't fly the dog due to airline restrictions on american bulldogs , the air in the van failed in arizona and his dog died ........ i have to agree it's not the best practice ........imo
 

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the number and frequency of cop K9 dogs that have died in cop cars would surprise most folks ......... i knew a guy paid a service to deliver a dog , a dedicated business that moved dogs by ground in climate controlled vans ........ to move a dog from the east coast to california , paid 20 grand for the dog , couldn't fly the dog due to airline restrictions on american bulldogs , the air in the van failed in arizona and his dog died ........ i have to agree it's not the best practice ........imo
The dog cost $20K or the move in the van cost $20K?
 

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the number and frequency of cop K9 dogs that have died in cop cars would surprise most folks ......... i knew a guy paid a service to deliver a dog , a dedicated business that moved dogs by ground in climate controlled vans ........ to move a dog from the east coast to california , paid 20 grand for the dog , couldn't fly the dog due to airline restrictions on american bulldogs , the air in the van failed in arizona and his dog died ........ i have to agree it's not the best practice ........imo
That's the thing, it happens more then anyone knows. It's not top of the world news.
I know of enough failed times that I would not trust it without all the added precautions Tom mentioned. The average person will not do that though.
 

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Air conditioners in cars failing? I think the rarity of that makes it an invalid argument for your case. How often does that happen?

I agree that this is probably a rarity, but years ago when Pete and I were driving our truck, we stopped for the night at a truckstop in AL. We had our 2 dogs with us and were walking them around the property.

We came upon a driver who was sitting on the steps into his cab, and struck up a conversation. He started petting our dogs, and suddenly burst into tears.

Just that day, he had left his little dog in the truck while he went inside and showered and ate dinner. When he returned, his truck engine had shut off and his dog had died from the heat.

We had a generator on our truck and a rooftop AC unit, but I was always nervous when we left them on a hot day. We went to a movie one time...I could hear if the generator was running from a fairly good distance. I went out and listened twice during the movie.

This was our truck. We made good money as a team hauling very high-dollar cargo.

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My favorite bad dog owner move is the beach! I am fishing with my dog off leash. my dog goes to dog camp all the time, meets people in public, and wants to meet people and other dogs more than eat (almost). So why do you walk within 6' of me and my obvious setup and scream it me to put my dog on a leash when you and your dog are A$$holes! I kinda get though since anti-social people raise and handle anti-social dogs. Secret alert this years OBX vacation will be the first ever without a dog. I love em but I can hold the first bathroom trip of the day for at least 2 hours if the sleep is good!
 

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My favorite bad dog owner move is the beach! I am fishing with my dog off leash. my dog goes to dog camp all the time, meets people in public, and wants to meet people and other dogs more than eat (almost). So why do you walk within 6' of me and my obvious setup and scream it me to put my dog on a leash when you and your dog are A$$holes! I kinda get though since anti-social people raise and handle anti-social dogs. Secret alert this years OBX vacation will be the first ever without a dog. I love em but I can hold the first bathroom trip of the day for at least 2 hours if the sleep is good!
Leash laws are all over. Unless you are on your own property or dog parks/dog beach, the dog needs to be on a leash.
I think its funny those that break the leash law think those that don't are A holes and those that don't break the leash law think those that do break it are A holes.
It's actually the same with those that wouldn't ever leave a dog in a car and those that will.
 

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Leash laws are all over. Unless you are on your own property or dog parks/dog beach, the dog needs to be on a leash.
I think its funny those that break the leash law think those that don't are A holes and those that don't break the leash law think those that do break it are A holes.
It's actually the same with those that wouldn't ever leave a dog in a car and those that will.
Big-time agree with this. It does warm my heart seeing an owner with a faithful good-natured dog that sticks to them like glue. But even rural areas are getting crowded with new people and new dogs. You never know when another not-so-nice dog will come along or something will trigger an instinct. I get to hear it at my main job all the time - "My dog has never acted like that before!" (Well yeah, I'm normally nice, but I'd bite too if a stranger held me down under a loud force dryer!)

IMO the main reason it's really not cool to let a dog run loose is because they chase wildlife that have been pushed out of their natural range. Especially birds. When I was sent to capture injured geese for a rescue, peoples' dogs often complicated things. And the owners would sometimes laugh even though the geese belong there and the dog doesn't need to be. Even a good dog will accidentally scare off shore birds and sensitive and decreasing species like bobwhites and kildeer, leaving orphaned little ones.
 

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my opinion on off leash , there is a time and place for it whether your dog is friendly or not ....... i've raised some extreme dog aggressive dogs , i've raised timids dogs , solid dogs and "mean" dogs , i've never raised a dog that was a problem for me or anyone else ....... when some ones loose dog runs up on mine on a trail and tells me their dog is friendly , often didn't help me , cause mine wasn't ........ i've had dogs would try and kill a strange dog 100% , i could walk them by another dog , both on leashes , on a 6 foot wide trail without a problem ...... i've had loose dogs run up on my dog on leash without the owner being anywhere in site , then when the owner arrived they were afraid to help break up the fight ........ common sense is needed in off leash decisions , my dogs off leash are never out of my sight , ever , and i'm looking around for anything and everything .....,,

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my opinion on off leash , there is a time and place for it whether your dog is friendly or not ....... i've raised some extreme dog aggressive dogs , i've raised timids dogs , solid dogs and "mean" dogs , i've never raised a dog that was a problem for me or anyone else ....... when some ones loose dog runs up on mine on a trail and tells me their dog is friendly , often didn't help me , cause mine wasn't ........ i've had dogs would try and kill a strange dog 100% , i could walk them by another dog , both on leashes , on a 6 foot wide trail without a problem ...... i've had loose dogs run up on my dog on leash without the owner being anywhere in site , then when the owner arrived they were afraid to help break up the fight ........ common sense is needed in off leash decisions , my dogs off leash are never out of my sight , ever , and i'm looking around for anything and everything .....,,

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Well said: a time and place for on and off leash. Those are some massive dogs hahah
 
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