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CarolM

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PREVIOUSLY IN CDR:

Noel - Continues to regale us with her funny pictures and bringing some comedy into our lives to relieve the stress of daily life. Her eyesight is slowly improving and before long she will be able to see only one of each of us at a time. But I think that we will need to help with the tiny box problem and maybe broaden her horizons.;)

Bea, is getting a new baby turtle in about a weeks time. We are encouraged to try and guess what species it is and help with name picking. NOOOOO don't pick on the poor baby, that is just mean!!

Sabine is getting stormy weather updates and will need to outfit her chickens with some red shoes so that they can click them and get back home after they have been blown away, otherwise the sheep are heavy with babies - ready to pop out hopefully soon, and the rest of the family are all snuggled up in the cozy house.

Tricia - has had her first show house and she managed to get quite a few of the tips done to make it show house ready. Hopefully it sells for what she needs, to get that place that she wants to get - with lots of space.

Lyn has finally gotten the boot..... no not that kind of boot - where is your mind going! Lola is not so sure about this new boot though and it has been speculated that Lola might think that the boot is a new addition to his family. Yayyy finally a friend for Lola. Although I think the boot might be confused with Lola's name and gender confusion.

Heather had her anniversary over the weekend and had a ball. BUTTTT she did not get the redfoot tort as a gift. Now Heather has to go back to the normal work day Monday, but everybody else gets to sleep in and enjoy their cozy beds and sleep while Heather has to be the responsible one and bring in the money.;)

Linda is back and regaling us with her exploits again with some beautiful architecture and history of London. Our favorite bird is checking out the bird house digs (I hope it is the same one as last year) and hopefully this time around the eggs hatch and make it to leaving the nest all healthy and wealthy.

Mark has sold his chest - I would be very sad to see something so beautiful going - but that is just me. And he has added a few new completed projects to his collection. Bowl no 2 is almost done and beautiful like the rest of his work (I am not sure if he realizes that he has now set the standard for his woodwork and we will be very critical if the future ones are not up to par). He also had everybody guessing for a long time it seems on what his latest project was for. Which turned out to be........ta daaaaa wait for it....wait for it.....A tool rack with magnets instead of hooks.

Anne is not sure if the moss ball in Pinstripes and Bolds tank can be called a ball anymore, but it has been transformed into a tunnel and great hideaway for the turtles by the turtles. Pinstripe and Bold certainly like to have things their way and have no compunction about re-arranging anything not to their liking. Way to go Pinstripe and Bold. Tell us all how you like it.

Cathie G Recycles old newspaper and has the cutest bunny. But Mr Bunny - Floppsie, Mopsie or Cotton tail (They all fit the look of her bunny) does not like to be told what to do. She will choose whether she wants to go into your lap or not. So you better make sure it is a good lap and maybe just maybe she might hop in there for a sec or two. Don't expect anything more than that though, she is very fussy. We seem to be raising very opinionated pets in the CDR.

Kathy caught the virus going around the CDR but was a trooper and carried on with her daily business quite well. She even cleaned (steamed etc) our kitchen and bathroom in the CDR for us. What a star. Kathy have the vents been cleared yet, as I don't want to be the next one to get the virus. Kathy's garden is going into shock as it is going to be overhauled and will look brand spanking new once Kathy and her gardener are done with it. The container is going _ although I still say it will make a great tortoise house for all the torts. And the Blue agave have been planted. may they grow and prosper well in Kathy's garden.

Yvonne - Oh Yvonne.... She needs a new matress (anybody have a new one to spare?) and is being kept indoors with the rain. But don't worry I believe that there is not much to do outside so it is all good. As soon as all the little bits that need to be done outside are done, then Yvonne will be enjoying her cozy house with Misty and the cat.

Cheryl is still busy with the new tort and most probably the little ones that hatched a few weeks ago. Actually it is time that we saw a pic or two of the babies again please Cheryl. I cannot remember seeing too many posts from you this week. Are you still okay or are you still trying to recover from that nasty virus that we have in the CDR?

Lena is moving mountains with her new turtle - whose name is Avatar. Although it does not look like an avatar, if I remember correctly they were all Blue. :eek: But please check and have a look to see if you are missing any mountains in your corner as Denmark does not have any - which makes me wonder where her turtle is finding them.

Todd had a birthday this week. Happy Birthday again Todd

Ray is doing better but took a turn for the worse with an infection and high temperatures. But he said that he was doing much better once they knew what was wrong and he is on anti-biotics to fight off the infection and should be walking around with a new prosthetic by the end of the month. Well done Ray and stay with us, as we still need to find out what the name of your horse is and which desert it is in.

We had one or two new visitors in the CDR - @Kells Bells Welcome to the CDR. Don't worry we don't bite.....well not much anyway. But do watch out for the Hedgehogs, One legged Pirate, Leprechaun and the meerkats. They either cause nonsense, prick you or try and take your money. The snow leopard and penguins, Jellyfish and homework hound are the ones that are fine and will either light your way in these dark rooms, steal your carrots (but at least they are not eating you), want to be fed pilchards and or will sort out your homework problem. So all is good. Oh and Montgomery will bring you your beverage of choice in the morning and the evening.

Jaizei and Billna the 2 popped in and made a comment or two. Billna I think is a previous guest of ours but with a new name (I think) if I have it wrong then please do correct me for future updates.

Me (Carol) - Got sunburned over the weekend watching my sons hockey matches. It was exhausting and I wasn't even the one running up and down fields chasing hard balls with sticks to see if I could get it away from other people running around and chasing the same hard ball also trying to hit it with sticks. I so thought that we had moved past the stage of chasing things with sticks in this day and age. Oh well the caveman will always come out every now then I suppose. We have had some nice rain. Yayy which for Cape Town is absolutely awesome. I am hoping that it carries on through out Winter. I will be one very happy Capetonian.

And the story continues............
 

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The clocks sprang forward an hour this weekend for daylight saving time. It could make for an interesting Monday morning, with all the sleepy people trying to do their routines an hour earlier than usual.

We don’t get daylight saving until the last weekend in March. Another three of weeks before confusion reigns here.
 

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PREVIOUSLY IN CDR:

Noel - Continues to regale us with her funny pictures and bringing some comedy into our lives to relieve the stress of daily life. Her eyesight is slowly improving and before long she will be able to see only one of each of us at a time. But I think that we will need to help with the tiny box problem and maybe broaden her horizons.;)

Bea, is getting a new baby turtle in about a weeks time. We are encouraged to try and guess what species it is and help with name picking. NOOOOO don't pick on the poor baby, that is just mean!!

Sabine is getting stormy weather updates and will need to outfit her chickens with some red shoes so that they can click them and get back home after they have been blown away, otherwise the sheep are heavy with babies - ready to pop out hopefully soon, and the rest of the family are all snuggled up in the cozy house.

Tricia - has had her first show house and she managed to get quite a few of the tips done to make it show house ready. Hopefully it sells for what she needs, to get that place that she wants to get - with lots of space.

Lyn has finally gotten the boot..... no not that kind of boot - where is your mind going! Lola is not so sure about this new boot though and it has been speculated that Lola might think that the boot is a new addition to his family. Yayyy finally a friend for Lola. Although I think the boot might be confused with Lola's name and gender confusion.

Heather had her anniversary over the weekend and had a ball. BUTTTT she did not get the redfoot tort as a gift. Now Heather has to go back to the normal work day Monday, but everybody else gets to sleep in and enjoy their cozy beds and sleep while Heather has to be the responsible one and bring in the money.;)

Linda is back and regaling us with her exploits again with some beautiful architecture and history of London. Our favorite bird is checking out the bird house digs (I hope it is the same one as last year) and hopefully this time around the eggs hatch and make it to leaving the nest all healthy and wealthy.

Mark has sold his chest - I would be very sad to see something so beautiful going - but that is just me. And he has added a few new completed projects to his collection. Bowl no 2 is almost done and beautiful like the rest of his work (I am not sure if he realizes that he has now set the standard for his woodwork and we will be very critical if the future ones are not up to par). He also had everybody guessing for a long time it seems on what his latest project was for. Which turned out to be........ta daaaaa wait for it....wait for it.....A tool rack with magnets instead of hooks.

Anne is not sure if the moss ball in Pinstripes and Bolds tank can be called a ball anymore, but it has been transformed into a tunnel and great hideaway for the turtles by the turtles. Pinstripe and Bold certainly like to have things their way and have no compunction about re-arranging anything not to their liking. Way to go Pinstripe and Bold. Tell us all how you like it.

Cathie G Recycles old newspaper and has the cutest bunny. But Mr Bunny - Floppsie, Mopsie or Cotton tail (They all fit the look of her bunny) does not like to be told what to do. She will choose whether she wants to go into your lap or not. So you better make sure it is a good lap and maybe just maybe she might hop in there for a sec or two. Don't expect anything more than that though, she is very fussy. We seem to be raising very opinionated pets in the CDR.

Kathy caught the virus going around the CDR but was a trooper and carried on with her daily business quite well. She even cleaned (steamed etc) our kitchen and bathroom in the CDR for us. What a star. Kathy have the vents been cleared yet, as I don't want to be the next one to get the virus. Kathy's garden is going into shock as it is going to be overhauled and will look brand spanking new once Kathy and her gardener are done with it. The container is going _ although I still say it will make a great tortoise house for all the torts. And the Blue agave have been planted. may they grow and prosper well in Kathy's garden.

Yvonne - Oh Yvonne.... She needs a new matress (anybody have a new one to spare?) and is being kept indoors with the rain. But don't worry I believe that there is not much to do outside so it is all good. As soon as all the little bits that need to be done outside are done, then Yvonne will be enjoying her cozy house with Misty and the cat.

Cheryl is still busy with the new tort and most probably the little ones that hatched a few weeks ago. Actually it is time that we saw a pic or two of the babies again please Cheryl. I cannot remember seeing too many posts from you this week. Are you still okay or are you still trying to recover from that nasty virus that we have in the CDR?

Lena is moving mountains with her new turtle - whose name is Avatar. Although it does not look like an avatar, if I remember correctly they were all Blue. :eek: But please check and have a look to see if you are missing any mountains in your corner as Denmark does not have any - which makes me wonder where her turtle is finding them.

Todd had a birthday this week. Happy Birthday again Todd

Ray is doing better but took a turn for the worse with an infection and high temperatures. But he said that he was doing much better once they knew what was wrong and he is on anti-biotics to fight off the infection and should be walking around with a new prosthetic by the end of the month. Well done Ray and stay with us, as we still need to find out what the name of your horse is and which desert it is in.

We had one or two new visitors in the CDR - @Kells Bells Welcome to the CDR. Don't worry we don't bite.....well not much anyway. But do watch out for the Hedgehogs, One legged Pirate, Leprechaun and the meerkats. They either cause nonsense, prick you or try and take your money. The snow leopard and penguins, Jellyfish and homework hound are the ones that are fine and will either light your way in these dark rooms, steal your carrots (but at least they are not eating you), want to be fed pilchards and or will sort out your homework problem. So all is good. Oh and Montgomery will bring you your beverage of choice in the morning and the evening.

Jaizei and Billna the 2 popped in and made a comment or two. Billna I think is a previous guest of ours but with a new name (I think) if I have it wrong then please do correct me for future updates.

Me (Carol) - Got sunburned over the weekend watching my sons hockey matches. It was exhausting and I wasn't even the one running up and down fields chasing hard balls with sticks to see if I could get it away from other people running around and chasing the same hard ball also trying to hit it with sticks. I so thought that we had moved past the stage of chasing things with sticks in this day and age. Oh well the caveman will always come out every now then I suppose. We have had some nice rain. Yayy which for Cape Town is absolutely awesome. I am hoping that it carries on through out Winter. I will be one very happy Capetonian.

And the story continues............

You are amazing Carol! I don’t know how you manage to collate these updates, but they are SO useful!

Thank you so much [emoji177] :tort:
 

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PREVIOUSLY IN CDR:

Noel - Continues to regale us with her funny pictures and bringing some comedy into our lives to relieve the stress of daily life. Her eyesight is slowly improving and before long she will be able to see only one of each of us at a time. But I think that we will need to help with the tiny box problem and maybe broaden her horizons.;)

Bea, is getting a new baby turtle in about a weeks time. We are encouraged to try and guess what species it is and help with name picking. NOOOOO don't pick on the poor baby, that is just mean!!

Sabine is getting stormy weather updates and will need to outfit her chickens with some red shoes so that they can click them and get back home after they have been blown away, otherwise the sheep are heavy with babies - ready to pop out hopefully soon, and the rest of the family are all snuggled up in the cozy house.

Tricia - has had her first show house and she managed to get quite a few of the tips done to make it show house ready. Hopefully it sells for what she needs, to get that place that she wants to get - with lots of space.

Lyn has finally gotten the boot..... no not that kind of boot - where is your mind going! Lola is not so sure about this new boot though and it has been speculated that Lola might think that the boot is a new addition to his family. Yayyy finally a friend for Lola. Although I think the boot might be confused with Lola's name and gender confusion.

Heather had her anniversary over the weekend and had a ball. BUTTTT she did not get the redfoot tort as a gift. Now Heather has to go back to the normal work day Monday, but everybody else gets to sleep in and enjoy their cozy beds and sleep while Heather has to be the responsible one and bring in the money.;)

Linda is back and regaling us with her exploits again with some beautiful architecture and history of London. Our favorite bird is checking out the bird house digs (I hope it is the same one as last year) and hopefully this time around the eggs hatch and make it to leaving the nest all healthy and wealthy.

Mark has sold his chest - I would be very sad to see something so beautiful going - but that is just me. And he has added a few new completed projects to his collection. Bowl no 2 is almost done and beautiful like the rest of his work (I am not sure if he realizes that he has now set the standard for his woodwork and we will be very critical if the future ones are not up to par). He also had everybody guessing for a long time it seems on what his latest project was for. Which turned out to be........ta daaaaa wait for it....wait for it.....A tool rack with magnets instead of hooks.

Anne is not sure if the moss ball in Pinstripes and Bolds tank can be called a ball anymore, but it has been transformed into a tunnel and great hideaway for the turtles by the turtles. Pinstripe and Bold certainly like to have things their way and have no compunction about re-arranging anything not to their liking. Way to go Pinstripe and Bold. Tell us all how you like it.

Cathie G Recycles old newspaper and has the cutest bunny. But Mr Bunny - Floppsie, Mopsie or Cotton tail (They all fit the look of her bunny) does not like to be told what to do. She will choose whether she wants to go into your lap or not. So you better make sure it is a good lap and maybe just maybe she might hop in there for a sec or two. Don't expect anything more than that though, she is very fussy. We seem to be raising very opinionated pets in the CDR.

Kathy caught the virus going around the CDR but was a trooper and carried on with her daily business quite well. She even cleaned (steamed etc) our kitchen and bathroom in the CDR for us. What a star. Kathy have the vents been cleared yet, as I don't want to be the next one to get the virus. Kathy's garden is going into shock as it is going to be overhauled and will look brand spanking new once Kathy and her gardener are done with it. The container is going _ although I still say it will make a great tortoise house for all the torts. And the Blue agave have been planted. may they grow and prosper well in Kathy's garden.

Yvonne - Oh Yvonne.... She needs a new matress (anybody have a new one to spare?) and is being kept indoors with the rain. But don't worry I believe that there is not much to do outside so it is all good. As soon as all the little bits that need to be done outside are done, then Yvonne will be enjoying her cozy house with Misty and the cat.

Cheryl is still busy with the new tort and most probably the little ones that hatched a few weeks ago. Actually it is time that we saw a pic or two of the babies again please Cheryl. I cannot remember seeing too many posts from you this week. Are you still okay or are you still trying to recover from that nasty virus that we have in the CDR?

Lena is moving mountains with her new turtle - whose name is Avatar. Although it does not look like an avatar, if I remember correctly they were all Blue. :eek: But please check and have a look to see if you are missing any mountains in your corner as Denmark does not have any - which makes me wonder where her turtle is finding them.

Todd had a birthday this week. Happy Birthday again Todd

Ray is doing better but took a turn for the worse with an infection and high temperatures. But he said that he was doing much better once they knew what was wrong and he is on anti-biotics to fight off the infection and should be walking around with a new prosthetic by the end of the month. Well done Ray and stay with us, as we still need to find out what the name of your horse is and which desert it is in.

We had one or two new visitors in the CDR - @Kells Bells Welcome to the CDR. Don't worry we don't bite.....well not much anyway. But do watch out for the Hedgehogs, One legged Pirate, Leprechaun and the meerkats. They either cause nonsense, prick you or try and take your money. The snow leopard and penguins, Jellyfish and homework hound are the ones that are fine and will either light your way in these dark rooms, steal your carrots (but at least they are not eating you), want to be fed pilchards and or will sort out your homework problem. So all is good. Oh and Montgomery will bring you your beverage of choice in the morning and the evening.

Jaizei and Billna the 2 popped in and made a comment or two. Billna I think is a previous guest of ours but with a new name (I think) if I have it wrong then please do correct me for future updates.

Me (Carol) - Got sunburned over the weekend watching my sons hockey matches. It was exhausting and I wasn't even the one running up and down fields chasing hard balls with sticks to see if I could get it away from other people running around and chasing the same hard ball also trying to hit it with sticks. I so thought that we had moved past the stage of chasing things with sticks in this day and age. Oh well the caveman will always come out every now then I suppose. We have had some nice rain. Yayy which for Cape Town is absolutely awesome. I am hoping that it carries on through out Winter. I will be one very happy Capetonian.

And the story continues............
Carol, that is an AWESOME summary! :D
 

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PREVIOUSLY IN CDR:

Noel - Continues to regale us with her funny pictures and bringing some comedy into our lives to relieve the stress of daily life. Her eyesight is slowly improving and before long she will be able to see only one of each of us at a time. But I think that we will need to help with the tiny box problem and maybe broaden her horizons.;)

Bea, is getting a new baby turtle in about a weeks time. We are encouraged to try and guess what species it is and help with name picking. NOOOOO don't pick on the poor baby, that is just mean!!

Sabine is getting stormy weather updates and will need to outfit her chickens with some red shoes so that they can click them and get back home after they have been blown away, otherwise the sheep are heavy with babies - ready to pop out hopefully soon, and the rest of the family are all snuggled up in the cozy house.

Tricia - has had her first show house and she managed to get quite a few of the tips done to make it show house ready. Hopefully it sells for what she needs, to get that place that she wants to get - with lots of space.

Lyn has finally gotten the boot..... no not that kind of boot - where is your mind going! Lola is not so sure about this new boot though and it has been speculated that Lola might think that the boot is a new addition to his family. Yayyy finally a friend for Lola. Although I think the boot might be confused with Lola's name and gender confusion.

Heather had her anniversary over the weekend and had a ball. BUTTTT she did not get the redfoot tort as a gift. Now Heather has to go back to the normal work day Monday, but everybody else gets to sleep in and enjoy their cozy beds and sleep while Heather has to be the responsible one and bring in the money.;)

Linda is back and regaling us with her exploits again with some beautiful architecture and history of London. Our favorite bird is checking out the bird house digs (I hope it is the same one as last year) and hopefully this time around the eggs hatch and make it to leaving the nest all healthy and wealthy.

Mark has sold his chest - I would be very sad to see something so beautiful going - but that is just me. And he has added a few new completed projects to his collection. Bowl no 2 is almost done and beautiful like the rest of his work (I am not sure if he realizes that he has now set the standard for his woodwork and we will be very critical if the future ones are not up to par). He also had everybody guessing for a long time it seems on what his latest project was for. Which turned out to be........ta daaaaa wait for it....wait for it.....A tool rack with magnets instead of hooks.

Anne is not sure if the moss ball in Pinstripes and Bolds tank can be called a ball anymore, but it has been transformed into a tunnel and great hideaway for the turtles by the turtles. Pinstripe and Bold certainly like to have things their way and have no compunction about re-arranging anything not to their liking. Way to go Pinstripe and Bold. Tell us all how you like it.

Cathie G Recycles old newspaper and has the cutest bunny. But Mr Bunny - Floppsie, Mopsie or Cotton tail (They all fit the look of her bunny) does not like to be told what to do. She will choose whether she wants to go into your lap or not. So you better make sure it is a good lap and maybe just maybe she might hop in there for a sec or two. Don't expect anything more than that though, she is very fussy. We seem to be raising very opinionated pets in the CDR.

Kathy caught the virus going around the CDR but was a trooper and carried on with her daily business quite well. She even cleaned (steamed etc) our kitchen and bathroom in the CDR for us. What a star. Kathy have the vents been cleared yet, as I don't want to be the next one to get the virus. Kathy's garden is going into shock as it is going to be overhauled and will look brand spanking new once Kathy and her gardener are done with it. The container is going _ although I still say it will make a great tortoise house for all the torts. And the Blue agave have been planted. may they grow and prosper well in Kathy's garden.

Yvonne - Oh Yvonne.... She needs a new matress (anybody have a new one to spare?) and is being kept indoors with the rain. But don't worry I believe that there is not much to do outside so it is all good. As soon as all the little bits that need to be done outside are done, then Yvonne will be enjoying her cozy house with Misty and the cat.

Cheryl is still busy with the new tort and most probably the little ones that hatched a few weeks ago. Actually it is time that we saw a pic or two of the babies again please Cheryl. I cannot remember seeing too many posts from you this week. Are you still okay or are you still trying to recover from that nasty virus that we have in the CDR?

Lena is moving mountains with her new turtle - whose name is Avatar. Although it does not look like an avatar, if I remember correctly they were all Blue. :eek: But please check and have a look to see if you are missing any mountains in your corner as Denmark does not have any - which makes me wonder where her turtle is finding them.

Todd had a birthday this week. Happy Birthday again Todd

Ray is doing better but took a turn for the worse with an infection and high temperatures. But he said that he was doing much better once they knew what was wrong and he is on anti-biotics to fight off the infection and should be walking around with a new prosthetic by the end of the month. Well done Ray and stay with us, as we still need to find out what the name of your horse is and which desert it is in.

We had one or two new visitors in the CDR - @Kells Bells Welcome to the CDR. Don't worry we don't bite.....well not much anyway. But do watch out for the Hedgehogs, One legged Pirate, Leprechaun and the meerkats. They either cause nonsense, prick you or try and take your money. The snow leopard and penguins, Jellyfish and homework hound are the ones that are fine and will either light your way in these dark rooms, steal your carrots (but at least they are not eating you), want to be fed pilchards and or will sort out your homework problem. So all is good. Oh and Montgomery will bring you your beverage of choice in the morning and the evening.

Jaizei and Billna the 2 popped in and made a comment or two. Billna I think is a previous guest of ours but with a new name (I think) if I have it wrong then please do correct me for future updates.

Me (Carol) - Got sunburned over the weekend watching my sons hockey matches. It was exhausting and I wasn't even the one running up and down fields chasing hard balls with sticks to see if I could get it away from other people running around and chasing the same hard ball also trying to hit it with sticks. I so thought that we had moved past the stage of chasing things with sticks in this day and age. Oh well the caveman will always come out every now then I suppose. We have had some nice rain. Yayy which for Cape Town is absolutely awesome. I am hoping that it carries on through out Winter. I will be one very happy Capetonian.

And the story continues............


Nice work!
 

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That is absolutely lovely, especially for something so useful!
I had intended to reply with quote to @Maro2Bear here, as the completed wood, magnetic tool hanger is marvelous.

Of course, anybody else is welcome to accept that compliment, for whatever has been done so far, beautifully! :D
 

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Well, April the giraffe is back on live cam too!!
She is due to have her calf any day. She is pacing a lot and looks uncomfortable but it could be another week or so.
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Wow! Don’t know how I missed this! It was a horrible addiction for me last time around!!! Here I go again!!!
 

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