Is He Bolivian?

[BabyJack]

Hi, can anyone tell me if he is Bolivian?? Bolivian does have the elbow spur? (Shell rot is on treatment)

 

[Redfoot NERD]

Baby Jack.. I don't think you have a Bolivian there. Still quite small to develop a "wasp-waist". And a number of 'border-line' traits too.

Plus - of the adult redfoot tortoises from north of the Amazon.. Brazil and South.. that I've kept - none were without a pronounced scale that is known as a "spur".

A 2008 female for comparison..

 

[BabyJack]

So what kind could be with that color on his face?

 

[BabyJack]

 

[Redfoot NERD]

Brazilian [ aka cherryhead ]

 

[BabyJack]

He is with normal RF female, is that ok?? The one on my profile pic.

 

[BabyJack]

Shes the one

 

[Bryan]

So what kind could be with that color on his face?

I'd like to see better pics of his head/face and closer pics of the color of the scutes on the carapace if at all possible. Do you have any pics of this male when he was younger as well?

 

[Bryan]

Well said Bryan. All true.

Thanks.

Indeed. I recently acquired a mature female Bolivian with incredible marbling on the plastron. It's an F3 animal from the 80s import parents. Quite interesting. She is starting to nest now actually. In process of neonates I'd be curious In seeing how some of the young reared up display the physical chacteristics of the typical black plastron of
The grand Chaco.

Male breeding her has solid black plastron and she has marbled. Wonder what plays of this as time comes.

I'd love to see a pic of her. BTW-Did your other female lay for you? IIRC she was either 13" or 15" and had a nicely colored head.

 

[BabyJack]

I'd like to see better pics of his head/face and closer pics of the color of the scutes on the carapace if at all possible. Do you have any pics of this male when he was younger as well?

Hi Bryan. I dont have any pics as young. Here are some pics of him...

 

[BabyJack]

Hi Bryan. I dont have any pics as young. Here are some pics of him...View attachment 176128View attachment 176129 View attachment 176130View attachment 176131 View attachment 176132View attachment 176133 View attachment 176134View attachment 176135

I'd like to see better pics of his head/face and closer pics of the color of the scutes on the carapace if at all possible. Do you have any pics of this male when he was younger as well?

Is there any fact on the eyes color and nails?? Both are dark also.

 

[Bryan]

Thanks, could you take a picture of his front legs facing you? How long have you had him?

 

[BabyJack]

Thanks, could you take a picture of his front legs facing you? How long have you had him?

i got him since about 3 years ago.

 

[Anyfoot]

Well he Looks Bolivian to me.

 

[Bryan]

Do you remember how big he was when the concavity started on his plastron?

 

[BabyJack]

Do you remember how big he was when the concavity started on his plastron?

No exactly, i think since last two years it is more deep the concavity.

 

[BabyJack]

1. Is there any wrong on mixing with this one (female RF)???...

 

[Anyfoot]

1. View attachment 176357 Is there any wrong on mixing with this one (female RF)???...

They can live together with no problems, but if you intend on breeding them and want a pure line I'd separate them soon as you can.
If not breeding just bin any eggs.
Mine are mixed together and come from various mixed previous homes. I can only see 2 ways forward, never breed them again or split them and not breed for a few years. If i was you I would split them before you start adding more to your herd(s) and end up in a mess like me.

 

[BabyJack]

They can live together with no problems, but if you intend on breeding them and want a pure line I'd separate them soon as you can.
If not breeding just bin any eggs.
Mine are mixed together and come from various mixed previous homes. I can only see 2 ways forward, never breed them again or split them and not breed for a few years. If i was you I would split them before you start adding more to your herd(s) and end up in a mess like me.

Well the thing is that she lay and egg on May 10 and i saw the male very active with her...

 

[Anyfoot]

Well the thing is that she lay and egg on May 10 and i saw the male very active with her...

You shouldn't really have only one male and one female. The male may pester your female.
If I was in your circumstances I would get 2 more females that are the same as your male. Let them all live as a group(1.3), then you can decide what you want to do with any eggs from the northern female.