Spike Update

[cmeye11]

Hi All,

Spike, Spicy, Catchy, (I have three small kids and they each gave our tortoise its own name) is one of @Jodie's babies from 2016. It is just over a year old and weighs 359 grams.

I am just checking to make sure all looks well and that we are on the right track?

 

[Ramsey]

Growth looks as smooth as silk. Is @Jodie the Spokane lady?

From what I've read, that breeder follows the accepted norm/protocol of high humidity starts etc. As long as you follow the details, you should be good.

That's also a good weight if the age you stated is correct. Beautiful animal.

 

[cmeye11]

Growth looks as smooth as silk. Is @Jodie the Spokane lady?

From what I've read, that breeder follows the accepted norm/protocol of high humidity starts etc. As long as you follow the details, you should be good.

That's also a good weight if the age you stated is correct. Beautiful animal.

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Jodie from Spokane Valley Tortoises, she is awesome. She has guided us through this new adventure. Our tortoise is housed in a closed chamber based off of @Tom's design.

Thank you for the positive feedback. It is greatly appreciated.

 

[Ramsey]

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Jodie from Spokane Valley Tortoises, she is awesome. She has guided us through this new adventure. Our tortoise is housed in a closed chamber based off of @Tom's design.

Thank you for the positive feedback. It is greatly appreciated.

If that's the case, then I think you are all dialed in. The hardest part is finding the routine that works for tort and keeper.

I too am using the enclosed method as prescribed by @Tom and others. His fundamental statement is hard to argue: "find the results you want to copy and follow that person's methods."

However, I will say both of my vets say they raise leopards and they both assured me there is zero clinical evidence or indication that humidity is the cause/major factor in pyramidal shell growth. They also didn't say it would hurt either (low temps are a different thing).

I don't have the experience of dry starts, so I didn't have a dog in the fight to argue/push the issue. So I drank the humidity kool-aid

 

[Tom]

However, I will say both of my vets say they raise leopards and they both assured me there is zero clinical evidence or indication that humidity is the cause/major factor in pyramidal shell growth. They also didn't say it would hurt either (low temps are a different thing).

I don't beg to differ, I DEMAND to differ.

There are thousands of pieces of evidence on this forum alone. I have about 30 living pieces of evidence in my collection.

Exhibit A:


Exhibit B:


Exhibit C:


Exhibit D:


Etc...

 

[Ramsey]

I don't beg to differ, I DEMAND to differ.

There are thousands of pieces of evidence on this forum alone. I have about 30 living pieces of evidence in my collection.

Exhibit A:
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Exhibit B:
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Exhibit C:
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Exhibit D:
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Etc...

I know. Proof is in the pudding.

I don't know why it's not yet accepted in the "scientific community". I'm sure with time and new journals/textbooks there will be change.

Exhibit D is beautiful by the way.

 

[cmeye11]

I don't beg to differ, I DEMAND to differ.

There are thousands of pieces of evidence on this forum alone. I have about 30 living pieces of evidence in my collection.

Exhibit A:
View attachment 213204

Exhibit B:
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Exhibit C:
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Exhibit D:
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Etc...

Tom,

Is that your Sudan pair on exhibit C? Thanks.

 

[Tom]

Tom,

Is that your Sudan pair on exhibit C? Thanks.

No that's Tuck and Trey.

The sudans are exhibit B.

 

[cmeye11]

No that's Tuck and Trey.

The sudans are exhibit B.

Gotcha, either Tuck or Trey the tort to the right in the picture, his carpace seems more highly domed than other Sulcata's that I have seen is the only reason I asked. Needless to say, beautiful specimens.