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Mixing species

Discussion in 'General Tortoise Discussion' started by Yvonne G, Apr 9, 2016.

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  1. jaizei

    jaizei Unknown Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    IKR, you'd think the whole defecating in the water that they're all swimming in would turn up the disease transmission to 11.
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    I don't believe neither one of us argued conservation! We corrected the extinct part that you were WRONG about. Oh yes, as much as you can't admit it, you can, and have stated things WRONG.
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    wellington Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    I haven't seen any argument from you that you backed up with facts! I don't think anyone has a problem with different points of view. You see no problem with the coil bulbs. Most of us have heard of ten being bad, myself in more places then just here and most of us choose not to risk it. You want to argue that they aren't bad, fine. The rest of us that don't believe as you do will continue to push against them. As much as you accuse others of doing whatever, you do just as much of it. Everything this forum tries to warn against, because it "COULD" be bad, you are trying to push as if it can't be bad. Both sides are good to know, but don't push your views and then complain and belittle those that don't agree with you. If you can't stop being rude and belittling, then yes, the mods will be on you!
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    Here again you are the pot calling the kettle black. What you stated above is false. There are not MOUNDS scientific test data on one single faulty bulb, because not one single faulty bulb has been tested. Your mounds of data are compiled from bulbs that were not faulty. I believe you when you say lots of coil bulbs have been tested, but can you show me one single test done on an eye burning bulb? Nope. You can't. The reasons for this have been explained to you multiple times, and you ignore these perfectly understandable reasons. Until you came to the forum, no one has even had the ability to test a bulb. We don't have the equipment or expertise to test any bulb. There has been no reason to save the eye burning bulbs I've seen in the past because I had no useful purpose for them and no way to test them. When I come across another eye burner, I'll buy it form the person and send it directly to you for testing.

    Further, someone's personal observations are not false because you say so. They might be false, or they might be accurate, but just because proof isn't delivered to your doorstep on demand, does not make anyone else's assertions true or false. Anecdotal? Yes. Fallacy? Maybe yes, maybe no.

    Also, because someone mixed species and their tortoises did not die, yet, is not proof that the practice is totally fine and should be encouraged or recommended. Because someone mixed species and got away with it also does not mean that someone else did not experience diseased or dead tortoises because of the practice. As I've said before, its like playing russian roulette. Every game leaves five players who were not harmed in anyway. That doesn't make the game safe.
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    I have seen Russians in a succesful group as well. Mixed successes I know of are redfoot/ yellowfoot and a mixed group of hingebacks. I can tell you this: there are more people keeping groups on this board than you hear about. They just avoid being attacked and keep quiet ;)
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    BrianWI Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Your argument is invalid, as all logical fallacies are. Period. I would likely not be successful teaching you logic. Read the link and hope for the best. Or continue to be wrong, up to you.
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    How do I tell you that you are not really thinking clearly w/o insulting you? Since you jumped in ONLY to argue, I'll just guess you didn't read every post. Thats why your mob behavior is often so wrong and off track.
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    Here is a demo of the warped logic caused by fallacy. He is saying that because there are no tests on bad bulbs, that proves their existence. LOL! Of course there are no tests, they don't exist!

    Let me restate this to show how poor an argument this is:

    "Can you show me a single test that was done on blue Yeti hair? You can't. Therefore blue Yetis exist".
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    Genetic "purity". LOL.
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    No I jumped in as a Mod that you seem to have a problem taking instructions from to stop your insulting and belittling behavior. I only corrected the fact that if tortoises are kept as pets or for breeding they can not become extinct. That is fact!! I did read every post. I was alerted to your behavior here and As a mod I paid more attention to your belittling and to read if anyone else was doing the same back to you. I did pay attention to what others have said. I agree with the others You won't see or ever admit when you are wrong. That's the person you are. My statement about torts in captivity and never becoming extinct cuz we own them can not be argued or questioned, yet you keep trying. You call everyone else's experience or opinions as crap, yet you show little or no proof.
    Stop trying to force people to believe you. State your opinion, show your facts and if someone doesn't want to believe you, that's fine. They don't have to. You want to belittle them, make yourself sound like an expert on everything, and we have no clue if you have an expertise in anything. Some will believe you, others won't. Stop trying to force those who don't
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    I actually love @toms metaphors with Russian Roulette !!! I actually wrote it down. Lol !!!
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    It's good, but I've seen it before.
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    Here is your biggest problem: I am not wrong. So you go mob. And Blue Yeti. LOL.
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    I have one question. When Huck grows out of his shell he has now, where do I get a new one ? Thanks In Advance !!! Does anyone on the forum sell them ?
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    Unfortunately you are your own problem. Sorry for you
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    Like a hermit crab. Get a seashell and bedazzle it!
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    Blah blah.
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