I am flush with Marginated tortoises and am wondering when people tend to list them. They are all doing great, gaining weight and eating well. Last year I waited 3 months to sell 3 but this year I have a lot more and an incubator full of eggs.
How old do you list baby tortoises?
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I'd like to know that too. The youngest people can safely sell them (safe for tort). Just don't forget the wording you need to use if they are under 4 inches in most states anyway, maybe all.
Btw, congrats on all your hatchlings this year.
Btw, congrats on all your hatchlings this year.
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As soon as their little bellies are closed up and they are eating OK.
Oh no definitely all as that's a federal law.
I didn't know it was federal. The law is listed as if per state. Good to know though.
From what I remember it was, “…4" or more unless for study or education purposes then smaller is ok per U.S. of A. federal regulations…" Hope this helps on some level.
I believe this is do in part to species being legal in some states while illegal in other states.
That wouldn't apply. It has to be for legit, bona fide scientific or educational purposes.
I think it should depend whether or not they are being shipped. Some breeders will ship at one week old or less. Not a good idea in my opinion.
The hatchlings I've produced I wait at least 6 weeks before I send them out to a good home. Longer if they are being shipped.
The hatchlings I've produced I wait at least 6 weeks before I send them out to a good home. Longer if they are being shipped.
Except that is what everyone posts and they ask if that's what it's for you say yes, they ship tort. Very few sold under 4 inches is for a legit, bonafide research
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Cowboy is right under four inches you can sell for scientific or educational purposes. If you are a commercial breeder then I would stick to four inches or larger . If you are a hobby breeder and sell to friends or family then sell them .
Doesn't matter. Unless he's operating as a business, the hobbyist exception would suffice. Most of those that try to use the 'scientific/education' exception are businesses trying to skirt the law.
There is a federal law, and at least some states have their own laws.
Me too. It's a very big group. Lots of research neededI'm researching to see how long baby tortoises live for
Do you mean the 4 inch law does not apply to hobbyist?
Lots of research needed
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Until they are not babies anymore!I'm researching to see how long baby tortoises live for
I sell when I am sure they are eaten and poopen. They show some little growth that is beyond what an absorbed yolk will fuel. That is four to six week for leopards. I'm not sure the marginateds would be that different.
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=1240.62
this law is always on the move. This last update is from April 2015.
My comments are in red.
(c) Exceptions. The provisions of this section are not applicable to:
(1) The sale, holding for sale, and distribution of live turtles and viable turtle eggs for bona fide scientific, educational, or exhibitional purposes, other than use as pets. (education, scientific research clause)
(2) The sale, holding for sale, and distribution of live turtles and viable turtle eggs not in connection with a business. (This is where we are able to sell as hobbyist to friends, family and other hobbyists--right?)
(c) Exceptions. The provisions of this section are not applicable to:
(1) The sale, holding for sale, and distribution of live turtles and viable turtle eggs for bona fide scientific, educational, or exhibitional purposes, other than use as pets. (education, scientific research clause)
(2) The sale, holding for sale, and distribution of live turtles and viable turtle eggs not in connection with a business. (This is where we are able to sell as hobbyist to friends, family and other hobbyists--right?)
The Federal 4" law does not apply to small time hobby breeders. Some state laws do.
