I haven't been on here in awhile! You may or may not remember my Leopard Tortoise, Petre.. This has been doing wonders for him. His pyramidding is almost not existent and is a lot more active and looking healthier! Before and after picture posted. if you have a hatchling juvenile Leopard you need to have your set up like mine! Thank you to all who helped me become aware and we're very helpful. Have a great weekend