Greek torts - what kind?

[Chanchara]

I'm sorry if this post is a repeat of anything that has been said before.
I accidentally gained a couple of Greek tortoises.
Unfortunately I do not know them very well.
Please help determine the type of these tortoises, likely they came to Cyprus from Turkey.

Can it be Testudo graeca ibera?

 

[JoesMum]

@HermanniChris's expert eye is needed for distinguishing Greek subspecies

 

[Kaliman1962]

One for sure is ibera, the lighter one, I have one

 

[Chanchara]

One for sure is ibera, the lighter one, I have one

Thank you very much for your answer.
But were you able to determine that?
After all, there are many subspecies of Greek tortoises.


Testudo graeca anamurensis
Testudo graeca armeniaca
Testudo graeca buxtoni
Cyrenaican Spur-thighed Tortoise
Testudo graeca ibera
Testudo graeca floweri
Testudo graeca lamberti
Testudo graeca marokkensis
Testudo graeca pallasi
Testudo graeca soussensis
Testudo graeca terrestris
Testudo graeca zarudnyi
...

 

[Pawciorc]

From their origin Ibera, but to say by their appearance its too early; all greeks look very similar as hatchlings.