MISSION:Get Billy back.

Yes. That is where I got Billy from. But they are 20 pounds over my limit. I have found some adorable ones that are 100 pounds.

Hi Bella:

I think you should get over it and move on. Honor your decision and leave the new keeper alone. They bought the tortoise in good faith...don't make them feel guilty by playing the darn-it-I-shouldn't-have-sold-the-tortoise card. This is life. You have to take responsibility for your actions. So you sold the tortoise. boo hoo. Suck it up and move on. It is no longer your tortoise.

I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to teach you what happens in life. This teaches you to really give a lot of thought to your decisions before acting on them.

Yvonne G said:

Hi Bella:

I think you should get over it and move on. Honor your decision and leave the new keeper alone. They bought the tortoise in good faith...don't make them feel guilty by playing the darn-it-I-shouldn't-have-sold-the-tortoise card. This is life. You have to take responsibility for your actions. So you sold the tortoise. boo hoo. Suck it up and move on. It is no longer your tortoise.

I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to teach you what happens in life. This teaches you to really give a lot of thought to your decisions before acting on them.

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I do understand but The owner seems to want to get rid of him as fast as she can and is very 'happy' about getting another younger one. I am sorry but I can't move on and I am collecting him this weekend.

yillt said:

I do understand but The owner seems to want to get rid of him as fast as she can and is very 'happy' about getting another younger one. I am sorry but I can't move on and I am collecting him this weekend.

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And also if I don't get him back I will never have another tortoise in my life and that would be .. Well....

yillt said:

I do understand but The owner seems to want to get rid of him as fast as she can and is very 'happy' about getting another younger one. I am sorry but I can't move on and I am collecting him this weekend.

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What gives you the impression she wants to get rid? Doesn't make sense if she's asking you to find her another one...
I think you'd be better giving her the money as opposed to another tortoise. It all sounds rather bizarre.



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If she wants a different tortoise how come she wont just accept the return of her money and give you back Billy? She's just making things harder on both herself and you for no reason it sounds like. :/

yillt said:

I know. That's why I thought I better ask you guys here on tortoise forum for a solution.I understand and now I think maybe I shouldn't ask for him back. It's just that I love him so much.

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You said you stay in regular contact with her thought email, if this is true, simply send her an email, explain to her that you now realize what a mistake it was to part with him, explain that you did not realize you would miss him as bad as you do, be respectful, tell her you understand she probably spent time and money preparing for him and that if she could possibly find it in her heart to let you have him back that you can give her some money, money back for what she paid and perhaps a little more for her time and money spent preparing for him.
Money doesn't solve things but if she would agree, you get your tort back, out of a bad situation and you don't put another one into a bad situation. If she does agree, give her the money, get your tort, and then advise her that there is a great forum, tell her about the forum and that she can find another great pet on the forum and that plenty of people are willing to help when your preparing, setting up for your new pet. Perhaps you can get yours back, save another one from living a life in bad conditions, and educate this lady all with this one experience. Perhaps look at this as a learning experience instead of a mistake, that's how we grow in life, no matter what your age is.

yillt said:

I do understand but The owner seems to want to get rid of him as fast as she can and is very 'happy' about getting another younger one. I am sorry but I can't move on and I am collecting him this weekend.

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I wish you and the tort much health and happiness...I would also be sure to encourage her to think about some husbandry changes to her set up so when the other tort gets there he will already have a leg up...perhaps offer to help her in the initial set up?? Maybe this was all meant to happen just as it has...now you two know one another and maybe you are the source of some change in care she now knows about?

So... I'm thinking that she has suddenly changed her mind and wants to keep Billy.I understand but I know I'll miss my baby boy SOOO badly.I will just leave it unless she comes back. I don't want this but think it could be the right thing to do!! What do you think??

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So... I'm thinking that she has suddenly changed her mind and wants to keep Billy.I understand but I know I'll miss my baby boy SOOO badly.I will just leave it unless she comes back. I don't want this but think it could be the right thing to do!! What do you think??

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What makes you think she doesn't want to trade anymore


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We here are not against you trust me. We are just trying to tell you the truth and reality of the situation, you sold the tortoise, person bought the tortoise. The tortoise is no longer yours.

I partially agree, and I certainly agree that there might be a lesson in this.

BUT this is girl is a child, and legally her parents can recall this agreement as she is not liable yet as an adult.

I find it a bit harsh too keep on commenting on the negative part, Yilit has learned her lesson I think and seems to accept the consequences, and deals with it on a respectful way.

Very mature of you Yilit, my compliments.

I recommend you Yilit, involve your parents and recall this agreement.
And be done with this, neither for you nor your tortoise is all this stress and problems very good.

I hope you can reach an agreement with the buyer of your tortoise as sad as it is for you.

I wish you the best and I hope you can take some positivity out of all this.


Joey

I think all the negative, facts, etc. that needed to be said about this has been said. This is a child, have some compassion. No one is perfect.

I hope all goes well with you getting your tortoise back. Please let us know if it happens or not. Fingers are crossed for you.

Shakudo said:

I partially agree, and I certainly agree that there might be a lesson in this.

BUT this is girl is a child, and legally her parents can recall this agreement as she is not liable yet as an adult.

I find it a bit harsh too keep on commenting on the negative part, Yilit has learned her lesson I think and seems to accept the consequences, and deals with it on a respectful way.

Very mature of you Yilit, my compliments.

I recommend you Yilit, involve your parents and recall this agreement.
And be done with this, neither for you nor your tortoise is all this stress and problems very good.

I hope you can reach an agreement with the buyer of your tortoise as sad as it is for you.

I wish you the best and I hope you can take some positivity out of all this.


Joey

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wellington said:

I think all the negative, facts, etc. that needed to be said about this has been said. This is a child, have some compassion. No one is perfect.

I hope all goes well with you getting your tortoise back. Please let us know if it happens or not. Fingers are crossed for you.

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I agree with both of you. We all make mistakes Yilit. I believe that you should get your parents involved in this, it sounds as though you have learned your lesson and miss Billy very much. You have been very mature in this, but like I said - It's time now for you to try to relax and get your parents involved, you don't need all this stress.

I also from the sounds of it think the lady who the tortoise was sold to is playing games which is absolutely appalling considering that Yilit is a child.

She's not replying to my emails and I have her number but don't want to face her on the phone if she's angry(which she probably will be.) I might just give up and ask if I can see Billy once more!!

I must say, I am somewhat surprised at some of the responses here? I am having a hard time understanding how it is that this young person AND her parents were aware of the transaction that this young person was involved in...this young persons parents said that it was her tortoise so it was her decision...now, how is it that all deals are off simply because now the young person decides that all the arrangement should be called off because she is a child? Again, this child's parents were fully aware of the sale?

Yilt, I have expressed to you already what I felt and also that I felt it was a good thing for you to try to work with the woman that purchased the tortoise from you to see what could come of it....I think you are doing that...be aware, the woman does not have to return the tortoise...as hard as that is right now, it may be what happens....may I ask, how has the woman changed her behavior to make you believe she does not want to do the trade or refund of tortoise for her money?

It may not be easy to live up to your part of the deal...but that effort does not mean the woman has changed her mind? Please share what you believe she is thinking now?

ascott said:

I must say, I am somewhat surprised at some of the responses here? I am having a hard time understanding how it is that this young person AND her parents were aware of the transaction that this young person was involved in...this young persons parents said that it was her tortoise so it was her decision...now, how is it that all deals are off simply because now the young person decides that all the arrangement should be called off because she is a child? Again, this child's parents were fully aware of the sale?

Yilt, I have expressed to you already what I felt and also that I felt it was a good thing for you to try to work with the woman that purchased the tortoise from you to see what could come of it....I think you are doing that...be aware, the woman does not have to return the tortoise...as hard as that is right now, it may be what happens....may I ask, how has the woman changed her behavior to make you believe she does not want to do the trade or refund of tortoise for her money?

It may not be easy to live up to your part of the deal...but that effort does not mean the woman has changed her mind? Please share what you believe she is thinking now?

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She hasn't said she doesn't want to give him back exactly but she isn't replying to my emails and before she replied that day I sent them!!I don't know but I can't buy her another tortoise as I don't have the money to buy her one then I have to buy Billy another cage and everything. It's not my parents fault, I promise, they can't stop or make me sell my tortoise because I looked after him completely by myself!!

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She hasn't said she doesn't want to give him back exactly but she isn't replying to my emails and before she replied that day I sent them!!I don't know but I can't buy her another tortoise as I don't have the money to buy her one then I have to buy Billy another cage and everything. It's not my parents fault, I promise, they can't stop or make me sell my tortoise because I looked after him completely by myself!!

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Hi dear...so then, you have already spent the money she paid you for the purchase of the tortoise? That is a bit of a problem then, huh? I would not automatically assume her lack of reply is due to her refusal to work with you...however, she may simply be out of town or unavailable...that is possible.

Did you sell the tortoise including the enclosure to her? I understand your parents left this entirely up to you.

By the way Yilt...what is a young person such as yourself doing up at this time of night????Hmmmm? HMMMM?