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I want one so so so badly. Let me know if you guys actually get some -- and start breeding them.
 

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Might be wrong, but pretty sure Wayne Hill has a couple of these. Don't think he is producing them though. I know he does very well with the Coahualians though. They are for sale every year at the NRBE; I'd get some if they weren't so darned expensive, haha. Both species I would love to get into if the opportunity ever presented itself.
Now my question is, is anyone in the states keeping T. Nelsoni? Kelly? That is definitely a dream-list species, haha.
 

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I want one so so so badly. Let me know if you guys actually get some -- and start breeding them.
Sure I'll let you know , but the only problem will be bringing them into the country , I found out semartnat the place that gives you the permit to export any animals from Mexico will not give me the permit unless the animals were born in captivity , and the ones the guy is selling me are wild caught , if I get them I'm going to leave them in my house over there :/
 

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Sure I'll let you know , but the only problem will be bringing them into the country , I found out semartnat the place that gives you the permit to export any animals from Mexico will not give me the permit unless the animals were born in captivity , and the ones the guy is selling me are wild caught , if I get them I'm going to leave them in my house over there :/

Count me in as well, haha! I'm pretty sure it's typical that countries won't let chelonia out for export unless they were captive born. Which is why for some turtles there is a very small window to ship them out....Under 4" they aren't allowed. Over 7-ish" I hear that they often won't let them in because they say there was no way the tortoises were actually kept that long and raised in captivity (in which, I bet they are often right).
 

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Might be wrong, but pretty sure Wayne Hill has a couple of these. Don't think he is producing them though. I know he does very well with the Coahualians though. They are for sale every year at the NRBE; I'd get some if they weren't so darned expensive, haha. Both species I would love to get into if the opportunity ever presented itself.
Now my question is, is anyone in the states keeping T. Nelsoni? Kelly? That is definitely a dream-list species, haha.
cohahuilans are awesome ! I wish I could have a couple , I heard they can lay up to 3 times a year I wonder why they are so expensive , the closest I'll ever get to a cohahuilan will be a Mexican mud turtle kinosternon chimalhuaca I love those I don't know how rare they are or if we have any in the states but I really want some ! in Mexico they are listed as in danger and u have to get a permit to have them but I'm sure getting some of those !
 

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Count me in as well, haha! I'm pretty sure it's typical that countries won't let chelonia out for export unless they were captive born. Which is why for some turtles there is a very small window to ship them out....Under 4" they aren't allowed. Over 7-ish" I hear that they often won't let them in because they say there was no way the tortoises were actually kept that long and raised in captivity (in which, I bet they are often right).
The guy Also has some terrapene Carolina , the common Mexican box turtles they are beautiful but I'm more interested in the Yucatan box turtles haha
 

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This are the Mexican box turtles he has and the other Yucatan box turtles ImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406308386.197053.jpgImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406308406.428869.jpgImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406308416.012404.jpg
 

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Do you mean T. Carolina Nelsoni? Those are typically referred to at the Mexican box, or Mexican Spotted box turtles. I think....Pretty sure they are their own species now though, T. Nelsoni. Maybe someone can clarify. I don't know about the Mexican muds though. Never heard of the species.
As far as the Coahualians being so expensive, pretty sure Wayne is one of very few breeding them right now, so he can charge as much as he wants I guess, haha.

Coahualians really ARE awesome. I just love how unique they are in the habitat they live in....Which is also what makes them so vulnerable to extinction. Only one area in the world they are naturally native to, and a very small area to be the species' entire range :/.

So why are you going to Mexico? Going down there and visiting maybe the Coahulian basin would be pretty awesome...
 

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Might be wrong, but pretty sure Wayne Hill has a couple of these. Don't think he is producing them though. I know he does very well with the Coahualians though. They are for sale every year at the NRBE; I'd get some if they weren't so darned expensive, haha. Both species I would love to get into if the opportunity ever presented itself.
Now my question is, is anyone in the states keeping T. Nelsoni? Kelly? That is definitely a dream-list species, haha.
Nelsoni are very hard to find. I don't know anyone that works with any here. Very desirable in the market. Would love to get some.
 

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Nelsoni are very hard to find. I don't know anyone that works with any here. Very desirable in the market. Would love to get some.

I see. I think I read about one zoo having them, but thats it. Pretty much zero information about them, really. Definitely a species that needs attention.
 

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You sure those are mexicana? They look like Yucatana? Awesome either way.
the ones of the last pic in the container are Yucatana and the others are the common ones "terrapene Carolina mexicana "they can be found in tampico, Tamaulipas , Veracruz and San Luis Potosí
 

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Do you mean T. Carolina Nelsoni? Those are typically referred to at the Mexican box, or Mexican Spotted box turtles. I think....Pretty sure they are their own species now though, T. Nelsoni. Maybe someone can clarify. I don't know about the Mexican muds though. Never heard of the species.
As far as the Coahualians being so expensive, pretty sure Wayne is one of very few breeding them right now, so he can charge as much as he wants I guess, haha.

Coahualians really ARE awesome. I just love how unique they are in the habitat they live in....Which is also what makes them so vulnerable to extinction. Only one area in the world they are naturally native to, and a very small area to be the species' entire range :/.

So why are you going to Mexico? Going down there and visiting maybe the Coahulian basin would be pretty awesome...
I'm just going for vacations , I'll be in Jalisco for about a month so I'll be all over looking for turtles in the wild and I'll be uploading pics so you guys can see them :)
 

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Do you mean T. Carolina Nelsoni? Those are typically referred to at the Mexican box, or Mexican Spotted box turtles. I think....Pretty sure they are their own species now though, T. Nelsoni. Maybe someone can clarify. I don't know about the Mexican muds though. Never heard of the species.
As far as the Coahualians being so expensive, pretty sure Wayne is one of very few breeding them right now, so he can charge as much as he wants I guess, haha.

Coahualians really ARE awesome. I just love how unique they are in the habitat they live in....Which is also what makes them so vulnerable to extinction. Only one area in the world they are naturally native to, and a very small area to be the species' entire range :/.

So why are you going to Mexico? Going down there and visiting maybe the Coahulian basin would be pretty awesome...


In Mexico you have
Couhilla from couhilla desert northern
Meixana which is Mexican mostly found everywhere west/east coast and central
Nelsoni which are central from coast to coast
And yucatana which are only on the west coast.
 

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the ones of the last pic in the container are Yucatana and the others are the common ones "terrapene Carolina mexicana "they can be found in tampico, Tamaulipas , Veracruz and San Luis Potosí
Ok that makes sense. Haha I was like uhhhhhhh what's going on here. Super sweet turtles. Hope to have some very soon actually ;-)
 

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This are the mud turtles I want kinosternon chimalhuaca i get so confuse because they can vary in color and be a lot darker and sometimes I confuse them with other species the last two pics I got them from google ImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406309906.347211.jpgImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406309914.179184.jpgImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406309932.329362.jpgImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406309941.328935.jpg ImageUploadedByTortoise Forum1406309949.862270.jpg
 

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I'm just going for vacations , I'll be in Jalisco for about a month so I'll be all over looking for turtles in the wild and I'll be uploading pics so you guys can see them :)
Good luck finding some. This guy must have a sweat spot. All my Mexican friends down there never find any within their native range.
 

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I'm not a big keeper currently of turtles(aquatic) but I'm starting preparations to begin keeping a whole bunch over the years upcoming. My most desired out of Central America would be.
Dermatemys mawii
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I'm not a big keeper currently of turtles(aquatic) but I'm starting preparations to begin keeping a whole bunch over the years upcoming. My most desired out of Central America would be.
Dermatemys mawii
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I love those ! But so hard to get I believe there are a few places in Mexico that breed them and sell the babies the legal way and they give you documentation and everything , I just have to find out where , I'll see if I can get some info for you .
 
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