Overheating and death

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So sorry to read this sad post, but thank you for sharing this with us so we can all learn from it and be reminded to check our equipment. I just always assume mine is OK but will make a point of testing it now.
All good wishes for the recovery of the others, as well as these three if they can be revived.
 

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Oh man, so sorry to hear this. Thank you for sharing so we can be aware of things like this. Again, so very sorry. :(
 

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So how's the turtles Ben any news ? Hopefully good news.
 

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That's just due to this species. Being forest dwellers, they like their funghi, and when cooked they have a strong smell hat I was hoping might entice them out.
Sorry to hear about your fish too.
Thank you, that was a while ago and I had never planned on taking on fish, but once in my possession I felt responsible. I think the deadly error was me washing the bowl with use of mild dish soap. I later learned to never do that. I washed the heck out if it but it apparently wasn't enough. I was having nightmares about this for a long time
 

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I'm really upset to read this and I don't even know you or your torts...I'm truly sorry to hear about this entire situation:( I'm hoping your other torts are doing ok??!!
 

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So very sorry for your losses, a terrible tragedy, heartbreaking.
Really, really wishing the other five all the best.
 

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Thank you, that was a while ago and I had never planned on taking on fish, but once in my possession I felt responsible. I think the deadly error was me washing the bowl with use of mild dish soap. I later learned to never do that. I washed the heck out if it but it apparently wasn't enough. I was having nightmares about this for a long time
The reason your fish died was the fish bowl. Goldfish are very messy, and do best in a tank that's three times their size. In a fish bowl, the water fouls up incredibly quick. The ammonia that they excrete (they also excrete more when stressed, as well as losing their slime coating when stressed which acts as their protection) will inhibit respiration. Not to mention, goldfish need surface agitation so they can breathe. They need moving water to live. There are some fish (Japanese fighting fish, Arowannas, etc) that are able to live in an environment without surface agitation but they evolved to be able to do so. The other issue with a fish bowl is that it does not allow for proper growth of the fish - eventually the organs will outgrow their body and they die. I love fish - breeding them and keeping them. They are easy but there are a lot of things that can cause them to die prematurely. And pet stores aren't always great when it comes to making sure the customer knows how to take care of the animal they are purchasing. Sorry about your fish. Hopefully you have better experiences with fish in the future. Best of luck to you and yours :)

I'm really sorry to read that your torts became overheated. Hopefully they will make it. I want to say thank you for posting this as it acts as a reminder that we need to be vigilant in ensuring everything is functioning properly. So sorry you had to go through this. Hoping for the best outcome. Best of luck to you and yours. :<3:
 

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The reason your fish died was the fish bowl. Goldfish are very messy, and do best in a tank that's three times their size. In a fish bowl, the water fouls up incredibly quick. The ammonia that they excrete (they also excrete more when stressed, as well as losing their slime coating when stressed which acts as their protection) will inhibit respiration. Not to mention, goldfish need surface agitation so they can breathe. They need moving water to live. There are some fish (Japanese fighting fish, Arowannas, etc) that are able to live in an environment without surface agitation but they evolved to be able to do so. The other issue with a fish bowl is that it does not allow for proper growth of the fish - eventually the organs will outgrow their body and they die. I love fish - breeding them and keeping them. They are easy but there are a lot of things that can cause them to die prematurely. And pet stores aren't always great when it comes to making sure the customer knows how to take care of the animal they are purchasing. Sorry about your fish. Hopefully you have better experiences with fish in the future. Best of luck to you and yours :)

I'm really sorry to read that your torts became overheated. Hopefully they will make it. I want to say thank you for posting this as it acts as a reminder that we need to be vigilant in ensuring everything is functioning properly. So sorry you had to go through this. Hoping for the best outcome. Best of luck to you and yours. :<3:
Thanks for taking your time to address it. I seriously think both fish died because there was something in that bowl. They literally died the first night after I released them from their little carnival containers into that bowl. Being completely unprepared and ignorant about fish, I washed that bowl with dish soap and hot water. Sure, I thought I rinsed it well, but perhaps not well enough. Couple of years later one of my kids got another fish. This time I had got on aquatic forum, fresh water testing kit, proper filters, live plants and stuff. That experience had taught me that specialty forums are best resources out there.
 

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Thanks for taking your time to address it. I seriously think both fish died because there was something in that bowl. They literally died the first night after I released them from their little carnival containers into that bowl. Being completely unprepared and ignorant about fish, I washed that bowl with dish soap and hot water. Sure, I thought I rinsed it well, but perhaps not well enough. Couple of years later one of my kids got another fish. This time I had got on aquatic forum, fresh water testing kit, proper filters, live plants and stuff. That experience had taught me that specialty forums are best resources out there.
In my opinion, it is normal that they passed away once released in the fish bowl. Some live hours, some live a day and the exceptions will live days to weeks, sometimes even longer. They would of been stressed enough during transportation - they would already be releasing ammonia - and then to be put in such a small space - the ammonia probably killed them. And if the water from the container or bag that they were in was added into the bowl, death is inevitable. I've found that stores say it's OK to add that bag of water to the tank - all we are doing is adding ammonia and whatever else has come with them in the bag - if the tank they were taken from was sick and this water was added, the fish in the tank would more then likely become sick. Another thing that they do not tell you.. stressed fish are likely to get sick and die. They lose their slime coating - this barrier protects them from parasites and illness.. and if you pair this with cold water, a parasite named Ich is likely to attach to them and kill them. Ich thrives in cold water - it's in every tank but is dormant until the water cools.. The other thing is Goldfish prefer large, fully planted tanks. Putting them in a space where there's no cover is likely to stress them and kill them. There are so many things that people aren't aware of when it comes to fish. I see that you've already connected that water and dish soap does not mix. The soap strips away any good bacteria that was in an environment. It also is very hard to wash off. I found out that even washing filter media in water will strip away good bacteria! Without the good bacteria to balance everything out, ammonia and nitrites overwhelm the tank and kill the fish. Fish have it so hard. It's sad :( sorry for how long this post is. I also want to make it clear that it wasn't your fault. You didn't kill them. You weren't informed about how to keep them. As you can see, there are a lot of things that can contribute to their demise. I always felt bad when my fish died - most people wouldn't feel bad that a fish passed away. Most people don't care about something so small passing away, especially when it can be replaced so quickly. I've seen people buy the most aggressive fish you can get, just so they can put them in a tank and watch them demolish each other.. it's disgusting. I'd like to put these people in a tank together and watch them fight it out, hahaha. Anyways, happy fishing!! :D
 
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Yes, it is very difficult to accept that little critter whose life totally depended on us didn't make it. I do hope that the other torts came out ok from this overheating freak accident.
 
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