Very interesting. aLl views. The part of life is everyone has the free will to have their own opinion and that should be respected. Thats what makes us human! JD's torts are interesting and Id love to see updates on these guys as much as I can!

(10-02-2012 05:50 PM)GeoTerraTestudo Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 05:32 PM)N2TORTS Wrote:  I told myself I wouldn’t share anymore pics of them ...because of all the harshness and comments made. The funny thing though .....is the folks who can’t stand the idea are the first ones' to open the thread and look! So rather people (Generalized) find it a " wrong doing " Human nature still puts the brain into overload and intrigues us when out of the ordinary things happen and " proof " it can happen. Rather being man made or natural .
Again for the record I did not breed /hatch these but acquired them at 3 weeks old ….and glad I did so~


JD~

I feel bad about this, as I am one of the ones to have jumped down your throat. As you know, I think hybridization is a bad idea. But you have them, you didn't breed them, and you care for them. Personally, and setting aside my regard for them as cute (if odd) tortoises, at this point I regard them as an interesting experiment. Not one that should really be repeated, but one that is valuable nonetheless. I, for one, hope you continue to post pix of your little hybrids and document how they're doing.

Well Geo ... it's all good ...plus I think alot of folks learned some great info during this thread ...I did !.....Your a very smart man and I can appreciate that ....plus like you mentioned this was a "hands on" chance of a lifetime.. to accurately provide some detailed developments and factual information about the hybrids . I do keep very detailed records and I sorta like to take pictures .. ( ha ha ) ...
Anyhow ... thanks for the encouragement and words ...... and stay tuned for the updates.
" Have a great tort~n Day "
JD~

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(10-02-2012 09:43 PM)DrewsLife727 Wrote:  Very interesting. aLl views. The part of life is everyone has the free will to have their own opinion and that should be respected. Thats what makes us human! JD's torts are interesting and Id love to see updates on these guys as much as I can!

Well Mr. Drew ... "well said" and I'm sure you'll see more of them ~
Peace~


JD~

I'm most curious about if these hybrids will be able to reproduce, and if so, will it only be females, only males, or will it be both.

Also, how large will they grow, and if there'll be other interesting developements as they mature.

Lots to learn here...it'd be interesting to track this info from as many Leopcata owners as possible, to gain a fuller understanding.

This is a good thread. A lot of good info. I'm personally against it but if there was a species to experiment with it would be the sulcata. They are so over bred that i can't see this affecting the captive gene pool. And as far as ethics go, I can't see how these are any worse than breeding normal sulcatas for a profit. There are way too many as it is. At the rate they are going, you'll be able to get one for $25 in a couple years, and larger majority won't be properly cared for. Similar situation as green iguanas 10 years ago. Just my opinion.

(10-03-2012 10:45 PM)redfoot7 Wrote:  This is a good thread. A lot of good info. I'm personally against it but if there was a species to experiment with it would be the sulcata. They are so over bred that i can't see this affecting the captive gene pool. And as far as ethics go, I can't see how these are any worse than breeding normal sulcatas for a profit. There are way too many as it is. At the rate they are going, you'll be able to get one for $25 in a couple years, and larger majority won't be properly cared for. Similar situation as green iguanas 10 years ago. Just my opinion.

You make some very valid points. And, add to that list Burmese pythons.