Even if this guy did raise them himself. Aren't there a lot around that age and older that look just as bad. The info back then isn't what it is today. I get the healthy part, but if that's how they were mostly raised a few years back or so, would he even know that it is unhealthy? Just saying, because this is why, when I email some of these CL ads, to give them some advice, this is the reason I am very nice about it. Not accusing of bad care. So many of them did not know their tortoise was not being cared for in the correct way and did not know it was unhealthy because of it. Granted, they maybe just covering up for their stupidity, but I have gotten more Thank you's for the info and help then I have gotten, told to mind my own business. I thinks most never knew they were told the wrong thing.