Littleredfootbigredheart
Well-Known Member
Hey folks! Hope all are wellšbit of a random one and this might seem stupid to ask about but Iām curious on your guys input.
My moms partner has a red foot weāre upgrading(all is going good and I keep people updated on her upgrade thread) itās sparked a huge interest in tortoise care for me, Iām currently only really familiar with red foot care but Iām getting into learning more about different species needs, Iād really love to have my own! but even if I never do, I find it all super interesting, be nice to think I could put everything Iāve learnt on here to good use one day, I love coming on this forum in my spare time to learn stuff!
Anyway, idk why I do this to myself, cause itās basically tortureš„²but does anyone else ever just peruse re home sites to see whatās out there? Lol, like I say I really donāt know why I do it considering I know itās likely going to be a horror show out there and mess with my head, to no surprise when looking last night there was no end to tiny set ups, tortoise kept and being sold in pairs, beech chip bedding, pellet bedding, colourful pellet food, sawdust, no uv, red bulbs, pyramiding, overgrown beaks, someone selling a āherman red footāš„²you name it, it was thereš
Iāve decided to start reaching out to some these people directly after some encouragement from other membersšI wished Iād done that any time Iāve looked at bad ads, but Iāve always had this fear of them removing the listing altogetherš£
There were a few in particular that really stood out and pulled at my heart strings the other night.. and it got me thinking.. I wonder if thereās anyway to use all these never ending ads as a learning opportunity, going back I considered creating a tiktok account or something featuring different pet ads, at the time my focus was going to be hamsters and small rodents cause Iād consider myself much more knowledgable on their care, Iām still out of my depth when it comes to reptile care really, I wanted the account to feature both good and bad ads, explaining whatās good about them, why itās good and explaining why the bad stuff is bad, then ending each segment with the most cost effective way to temporarily make the enclosure more comfortable for the animal until an appropriate home is found, Iāve seen a few small animal channels create similar content but thereās not a lot actually out there with this kind of format, especially for tortoise, so I felt like maybe thereās a gap here that could actually be helpful?
My hope with it all is, for not only the people posting the ads themselves to see it and hopefully take the information in, but for the countless people out there keeping their animals in similar set ups thinking itās the norm(mostly thanks to the dodgy pet industry&questionable breeders)to hopefully see the content and better their care, many of these tort owners that come to this forum after having spent a huge amount in a pet store only to find out theyāve been advised incorrectly, or their tortoise is starting to become poorly due to improper careā¹ļøI think it would be so handy for people to visually see common mistakes that are made.
It goes without saying thereās no end to animals being kept in bad conditions, sometimes through no ill will of the owner, and I know thereās countless channels and accounts dedicated to reptile/small animal care that could do a better job than I ever could, I just personally thought the format of something like this could be kind of interesting? there would always be different new ads to go through and I think seeing so many different set ups could make good viewing instead of the usual relay of the same information a lot of channels have? I certainly find looking at different set ups interesting but maybe thatās just meš„²itād be a nice opportunity for people to see different examples of good set ups too!
As Iāve said Iām still of out of my depth when it comes to reptile care, so if I were to try and do something like this Id love to be able to direct people to this forum for the specific information on the care of the type of tortoise they have(I genuinely believe every tortoise owner should check this forum out)
However I do at this stage feel Iāve learnt enough on here from you guys to spot the major red flags that I think are important to address when it comes to their care, and had no idea just how rampant the problems were until joining the forum! like dangerous substrate, the danger of cohabitation, having the right uv&diet, why the sizing of an enclosure is important. Iād definitely have to leave some specifics as Iām still very much learning, for which itād be great to direct people here.
I almost wish I could see content like this from an experienced member cause Iād find it entertaining to watch and theyād do a much better jobšbut Iām potentially up for the challenge!š„²
Iād definitely want to keep things as chill and respectful as possible no matter the condition of the set up, last thing Iād wanna do is offend someone or risk them taking the ad down altogether so the tort canāt get a better home, I wouldnāt want it to feel like a public attack, though there are undoubtedly some that make you want toš£I probably wouldnāt even show my face, it could just be a voice over
Would anyone be interested, if I were to post some pics of the ads on here first, coming up ways to advise the owner on temporarily making things better?(it would just be pictures of the setup and/or the description theyāve put, no names or anything)The person themselves might not see it, but it would give the opportunity for lots of creative ideas to come together, maybe inspiring those with similar out dated set ups that often find themselves here panicking theyāve brought the wrong stuff, it would also be nice to think it could prevent the tortoise in the ads themselves being housed inappropriately by future prospective ownersš
Ultimately I suppose all you can hope is, even if one need is still refused to be met, like enclosure sizing(biggest issue I came across), that at the very least, hazardous things can be removed and appropriate substrate added.
You could also add ones from wherever youāre from!(including the red flags you personally see in them for me to include in the post)Any of the ones I post, Iād messages the ops myself, but Iād encourage others to do the same for the ones they might add.
Iāve seen how dedicated lots of experienced members are here when giving advice, I see many new members make threads daily repeating some of these common mistakes(again, most the time through no ill intentions)and how wonderful everyone is to take the time to go in depth, kindly and respectfully as possible, no matter the situation, over and over on the care for the specific needs of each tortoise, answering the same questions, sometimes multiple times a day, for each new member here willing to learn! Itās genuinely heartwarmingš„°
So I figured maybe some of you might enjoy contributing to this possible project?
It wouldnāt have to be an in depth answer on each tortoises care because I could link the care sheets to each of the species featured, it would just need to be some quick suggestions on how youād immediately improve the enclosures, or where appropriate, a new cost effective temporary set up is needed, based on some pictures.
I know the tortoise lover in all of us for the most part, will want to suggest completely new enclosures right away, but I do think itās important to bare in mind with these listings, most of the current owners that are already looking to re home, donāt want to spend the money/time on a completely new set up and some donāt have the space. I think itāll be best to suggest the most cost effective ways possible, where possible, to help the tortoise feel more comfortable for the time being in their set ups.
I do lastly want to add I think itās important, no matter how dire some of the set ups may appear, that everyone would need to stay as kind and respectful as possible because the ultimate goal here is to encourage owners to become apart of this community on the forum, I wouldnāt want them to feel like thereās lots of hostility before they potentially sign up.
What are peoples opinions in trying something like this? Could it back fire and be counterproductive? As in just offend the owners? Or put people off posting ads for animals that desperately deserve a new home?? I like to think it could encourage them to at least include the right information for future owners but Iām curious if people think this is a good idea?š
If so please do feel free to tag members in this thread who you think might enjoy contributing towards this project!
Maybe Iām not the right person for the jobšbut bad pet ads have always really bothered me! Yet I canāt look awayš„²perhaps itās me secretly wanting my own tortš¤£
My moms partner has a red foot weāre upgrading(all is going good and I keep people updated on her upgrade thread) itās sparked a huge interest in tortoise care for me, Iām currently only really familiar with red foot care but Iām getting into learning more about different species needs, Iād really love to have my own! but even if I never do, I find it all super interesting, be nice to think I could put everything Iāve learnt on here to good use one day, I love coming on this forum in my spare time to learn stuff!
Anyway, idk why I do this to myself, cause itās basically tortureš„²but does anyone else ever just peruse re home sites to see whatās out there? Lol, like I say I really donāt know why I do it considering I know itās likely going to be a horror show out there and mess with my head, to no surprise when looking last night there was no end to tiny set ups, tortoise kept and being sold in pairs, beech chip bedding, pellet bedding, colourful pellet food, sawdust, no uv, red bulbs, pyramiding, overgrown beaks, someone selling a āherman red footāš„²you name it, it was thereš
Iāve decided to start reaching out to some these people directly after some encouragement from other membersšI wished Iād done that any time Iāve looked at bad ads, but Iāve always had this fear of them removing the listing altogetherš£
There were a few in particular that really stood out and pulled at my heart strings the other night.. and it got me thinking.. I wonder if thereās anyway to use all these never ending ads as a learning opportunity, going back I considered creating a tiktok account or something featuring different pet ads, at the time my focus was going to be hamsters and small rodents cause Iād consider myself much more knowledgable on their care, Iām still out of my depth when it comes to reptile care really, I wanted the account to feature both good and bad ads, explaining whatās good about them, why itās good and explaining why the bad stuff is bad, then ending each segment with the most cost effective way to temporarily make the enclosure more comfortable for the animal until an appropriate home is found, Iāve seen a few small animal channels create similar content but thereās not a lot actually out there with this kind of format, especially for tortoise, so I felt like maybe thereās a gap here that could actually be helpful?
My hope with it all is, for not only the people posting the ads themselves to see it and hopefully take the information in, but for the countless people out there keeping their animals in similar set ups thinking itās the norm(mostly thanks to the dodgy pet industry&questionable breeders)to hopefully see the content and better their care, many of these tort owners that come to this forum after having spent a huge amount in a pet store only to find out theyāve been advised incorrectly, or their tortoise is starting to become poorly due to improper careā¹ļøI think it would be so handy for people to visually see common mistakes that are made.
It goes without saying thereās no end to animals being kept in bad conditions, sometimes through no ill will of the owner, and I know thereās countless channels and accounts dedicated to reptile/small animal care that could do a better job than I ever could, I just personally thought the format of something like this could be kind of interesting? there would always be different new ads to go through and I think seeing so many different set ups could make good viewing instead of the usual relay of the same information a lot of channels have? I certainly find looking at different set ups interesting but maybe thatās just meš„²itād be a nice opportunity for people to see different examples of good set ups too!
As Iāve said Iām still of out of my depth when it comes to reptile care, so if I were to try and do something like this Id love to be able to direct people to this forum for the specific information on the care of the type of tortoise they have(I genuinely believe every tortoise owner should check this forum out)
However I do at this stage feel Iāve learnt enough on here from you guys to spot the major red flags that I think are important to address when it comes to their care, and had no idea just how rampant the problems were until joining the forum! like dangerous substrate, the danger of cohabitation, having the right uv&diet, why the sizing of an enclosure is important. Iād definitely have to leave some specifics as Iām still very much learning, for which itād be great to direct people here.
I almost wish I could see content like this from an experienced member cause Iād find it entertaining to watch and theyād do a much better jobšbut Iām potentially up for the challenge!š„²
Iād definitely want to keep things as chill and respectful as possible no matter the condition of the set up, last thing Iād wanna do is offend someone or risk them taking the ad down altogether so the tort canāt get a better home, I wouldnāt want it to feel like a public attack, though there are undoubtedly some that make you want toš£I probably wouldnāt even show my face, it could just be a voice over
Would anyone be interested, if I were to post some pics of the ads on here first, coming up ways to advise the owner on temporarily making things better?(it would just be pictures of the setup and/or the description theyāve put, no names or anything)The person themselves might not see it, but it would give the opportunity for lots of creative ideas to come together, maybe inspiring those with similar out dated set ups that often find themselves here panicking theyāve brought the wrong stuff, it would also be nice to think it could prevent the tortoise in the ads themselves being housed inappropriately by future prospective ownersš
Ultimately I suppose all you can hope is, even if one need is still refused to be met, like enclosure sizing(biggest issue I came across), that at the very least, hazardous things can be removed and appropriate substrate added.
You could also add ones from wherever youāre from!(including the red flags you personally see in them for me to include in the post)Any of the ones I post, Iād messages the ops myself, but Iād encourage others to do the same for the ones they might add.
Iāve seen how dedicated lots of experienced members are here when giving advice, I see many new members make threads daily repeating some of these common mistakes(again, most the time through no ill intentions)and how wonderful everyone is to take the time to go in depth, kindly and respectfully as possible, no matter the situation, over and over on the care for the specific needs of each tortoise, answering the same questions, sometimes multiple times a day, for each new member here willing to learn! Itās genuinely heartwarmingš„°
So I figured maybe some of you might enjoy contributing to this possible project?
It wouldnāt have to be an in depth answer on each tortoises care because I could link the care sheets to each of the species featured, it would just need to be some quick suggestions on how youād immediately improve the enclosures, or where appropriate, a new cost effective temporary set up is needed, based on some pictures.
I know the tortoise lover in all of us for the most part, will want to suggest completely new enclosures right away, but I do think itās important to bare in mind with these listings, most of the current owners that are already looking to re home, donāt want to spend the money/time on a completely new set up and some donāt have the space. I think itāll be best to suggest the most cost effective ways possible, where possible, to help the tortoise feel more comfortable for the time being in their set ups.
I do lastly want to add I think itās important, no matter how dire some of the set ups may appear, that everyone would need to stay as kind and respectful as possible because the ultimate goal here is to encourage owners to become apart of this community on the forum, I wouldnāt want them to feel like thereās lots of hostility before they potentially sign up.
What are peoples opinions in trying something like this? Could it back fire and be counterproductive? As in just offend the owners? Or put people off posting ads for animals that desperately deserve a new home?? I like to think it could encourage them to at least include the right information for future owners but Iām curious if people think this is a good idea?š
If so please do feel free to tag members in this thread who you think might enjoy contributing towards this project!
Maybe Iām not the right person for the jobšbut bad pet ads have always really bothered me! Yet I canāt look awayš„²perhaps itās me secretly wanting my own tortš¤£